MSI is the most ridiculous motherboard manufacturer. They have "announcements" for every little thing, like this BIOS update. ASRock and ASUS for instance already have BIOSes with KabyLake support but didn't see the need for a big announcement.

Dear MSI,

Stop typing every other sentence in a different font using a different color.

This is not how branding works!
Eastern marketing, get this through your thick-90s style-skulls already!

/rant, sorry.

Yea but isnt intel going to release a new chipset(z270?) for the kaby lake refresh?

I find MSI BIOS to be a problem now a days
compared to their competition. Like their competition
still does, MSI used to have a downloadable BIOS
that could be USB drive installed without an OS in place.

Today, we seem to be stuck with having WINDOWS
in place to do BIOS updates. Try that with any other
OS... :(

FR@NKYea but isnt intel going to release a new chipset(z270?) for the kaby lake refresh?

Yes, but we have seen this before.

Ivy Bridge worked with 6-series chipsets after BIOS update
Haswell Refresh worked with 8-series chipsets after BIOS update
Broadwell didn't work with 8-series chipsets, but IMO that was just like "who cares?" kind of a case, since there were only two desktop CPU's and Skylake was already behind the corner when Intel released those..

Dj-ElectriCDear MSI,

Stop typing every other sentence in a different font using a different color.

This is not how branding works!
Eastern marketing, get this through your thick-90s style-skulls already!

/rant, sorry.

If you remember tech companies from around year 2000, they've actually improved a lot. Back then all Asian companies were insisting on ugly ass oversized skins made of BMP images. It was horrendous.

D.CrepitI find MSI BIOS to be a problem now a days
compared to their competition. Like their competition
still does, MSI used to have a downloadable BIOS
that could be USB drive installed without an OS in place.

Today, we seem to be stuck with having WINDOWS
in place to do BIOS updates. Try that with any other
OS... :(

I personally stick with ASUS. The amount of BIOS updates I've received for Sabertooth X99 was ridiculous and the year hasn't even ended yet. Plus, the updating can be done both, in Windows (afaik, I always do it through BIOS) or through BIOS itself. And since BIOS can read from disk, you just download the update file, unpack it from ZIP, restart and update from BIOS by finding the update file directly on disk. No need to copy stuff to USB drive like in the past. Though I still prefer to do that for some reason lol. Old habits never die I guess :)

RejZoRIf you remember tech companies from around year 2000, they've actually improved a lot. Back then all Asian companies were insisting on ugly ass oversized skins made of BMP images. It was horrendous.

Don't forget comic sans on the companies' ads back then :laugh:

RejZoRNo need to copy stuff to USB drive like in the past. Though I still prefer to do that for some reason lol. Old habits never die I guess :)

Same here, it's just "the right way" for me :)

D.CrepitI find MSI BIOS to be a problem now a days
compared to their competition. Like their competition
still does, MSI used to have a downloadable BIOS
that could be USB drive installed without an OS in place.

Today, we seem to be stuck with having WINDOWS
in place to do BIOS updates. Try that with any other
OS... :(

Is that a poem?

9700 ProYes, but we have seen this before.

Ivy Bridge worked with 6-series chipsets after BIOS update
Haswell Refresh worked with 8-series chipsets after BIOS update
Broadwell didn't work with 8-series chipsets, but IMO that was just like "who cares?" kind of a case, since there were only two desktop CPU's and Skylake was already behind the corner when Intel released those..

It was stupid non the less. Haswell-Refresh was just that, a refresh without any hardwarechanges, just better cooling and 100MHz more.
Broadwell was a better CPU, especially in the Video-department an the two released desktop CPU were fast because of the eDRAM L4-Cache while needing less power. They would have been ideal for HTPC and energy effizient everyday Rigs.
Of course, a normal 4+2 Variant with slower IGP, without eDRAM and more L3-Cache would have been faster than i7-4790k, but just barely, because it had only about 5% IPC increasement and wouldn't have been able to reach substantially higher clockrates. But that was the same between two generations before and after.

The reason Broadwell didn't work with most 8-series boards was not the chipset but simple boarddesign - a problem with the differences in voltage regulation from Haswell to Broadwell if I remember correctly.

I was sure I would get to upgrade to Broadwell when I bought my current i5-4670k-Z87-system in December 2013, because it was that way with sandy and ivy. Not only was I dissapointed in that way, but Intel presented renamed boards for those wanting Broadwell with new features (SATAe and M.2, albeit only with PCIe2.0 x2, fixed USB3.0) that could have been possible in 2013 already.

TigerfoxIt was stupid non the less. Haswell-Refresh was just that, a refresh without any hardwarechanges, just better cooling and 100MHz more.
Broadwell was a better CPU, especially in the Video-department an the two released desktop CPU were fast because of the eDRAM L4-Cache while needing less power. They would have been ideal for HTPC and energy effizient everyday Rigs.
Of course, a normal 4+2 Variant with slower IGP, without eDRAM and more L3-Cache would have been faster than i7-4790k, but just barely, because it had only about 5% IPC increasement and wouldn't have been able to reach substantially higher clockrates. But that was the same between two generations before and after.

The reason Broadwell didn't work with most 8-series boards was not the chipset but simple boarddesign - a problem with the differences in voltage regulation from Haswell to Broadwell if I remember correctly.

I was sure I would get to upgrade to Broadwell when I bought my current i5-4670k-Z87-system in December 2013, because it was that way with sandy and ivy. Not only was I dissapointed in that way, but Intel presented renamed boards for those wanting Broadwell with new features (SATAe and M.2, albeit only with PCIe2.0 x2, fixed USB3.0) that could have been possible in 2013 already.

You have many good points, I just mean that for a typical user it was more wise to just wait for Skylake. I have to admit that the iGPU/L4 thing was a nice thing to have on those.