Monday, February 13th 2017

AMD Ryzen XFR Frequencies Revealed

AMD's upcoming Ryzen processors are "unlocked," in that they feature unlocked base-clock multipliers that let you easily overclock them; yet a few of its variants feature a brand extension "X." As our older article details, the "X" refers to availability of the XFR (extended frequency range) feature. Think of it as a second stage boost that rewards good CPU cooling with higher CPU clocks set automatically. The Ryzen R7-1800X, R7-1700X, R5-1600X, R5-1400X, and R3-1200X feature this.

The R7-1800X features clock speeds of 3.60 GHz, with TurboCore frequencies of 4.00 GHz and XFR ranging beyond 4.00 GHz. That of the R7-1700X is set beyond 3.80 GHz, and the R7-1600X beyond 3.70 GHz, R5-1400X beyond 3.90 GHz, and the R3-1200X beyond 3.80 GHz. There are no fixed values as to how much higher these frequencies will go, probably because AMD doesn't want to advertise clock speed figures consumers hold it to account for. The TurboCore frequencies, on the other hand, are achievable on even the included stock cooling solutions, or coolers that meet the TDP ratings of these chips.
Source: WCCFTech
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74 Comments on AMD Ryzen XFR Frequencies Revealed

#26
nemesis.ie
TheLostSwedeEven so, AMD didn't design these to be the most power efficient parts in its lineup and it's likely we'll see more power efficient parts in the future, much like Intel's T-series of processors.
There was all the talk of ~4W idle consumption. If this is true, In theory you could make your own low power version by using the unlocked settings to cap the max speed. Although you would still be paying more prsumably than for a lower speed chip from the factory.

It will be interesting to see if there is also a settable TDP for these, so you could benefit from the speed for short bursts (like phones) but restrict the comnsumption/heat for smaller builds/24/7 use etc.

It all sounds very flexible anyway. :)
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#29
Ubersonic
The CPUs are shaping up really really well, now we just need for somebody to announce a decent spec motherboard, no point pairing a 1800X with anything that's been shown so far.
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#30
YautjaLord
But can it hit 5.0GHz under EKWB's 3x120mm rad easy? March or even April 28th me find out. R7 1800X it is.
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#31
CAPSLOCKSTUCK
Spaced Out Lunar Tick
There are going to be some great XFR threads on TPU.........:peace:
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#32
ratirt
I'm thinking about the R7 1700X for me. Anyway I will wait for some reviews about the CPU and of course Mobo's. don't wanna be hasty. :)
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#34
Palladium
Meh I can care less about XFR, which sounds like the CPU version of gimmicky factory autoclocking on Pascal. I just want the good old Intel way of guaranteed per-core max turbo.
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#36
DeathtoGnomes
PalladiumMeh I can care less about XFR, which sounds like the CPU version of gimmicky factory autoclocking on Pascal. I just want the good old Intel way of guaranteed per-core max turbo.
Your fanboi is showing. Loyalties are hard to break, but some day common sense is going to be a deciding factor.
bascohere are some pics with cache included:
www.computerbase.de/2017-02/amd-ryzen-leaks-taktraten-preise/
and how do I translate that page?
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#37
Eknex
Is known anything about speeds in OC?
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#38
Joss
I find Ryzen's lineup extremely confusing.

You have the Xs, non Xs, Pros and no Pros,
Different TDPs among the above mentioned,
3 coolers (HS55, HS65, HS81) under 3 categories (A, B, F)
You have the R5 that can either be a 6/12 or a 4/8,
Cherry on top you have the XFR thing
oh, and there's temps, the 1800X is supposed to stay below 60C, while the Pro 1800 (same TDP) can reach 72C

Confusing
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#39
FYFI13
"AMD Ryzen XFR Frequencies Revealed" ...Oh wait, they weren't revealed o_O
DeathtoGnomesYour fanboi is showing. Loyalties are hard to break, but some day common sense is going to be a deciding factor.

and how do I translate that page?
My common sense tells me Google Translate could help :|
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#40
Parn
Basically a built-in on-die auto OC and the ceiling of this OC is decided by the sample quality of each individual CPU.
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#41
Caring1
ParnBasically a built-in on-die auto OC and the ceiling of this OC is decided by the sample quality of each individual CPU.
And the ability to cool that CPU.
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#42
Palladium
DeathtoGnomesYour fanboi is showing. Loyalties are hard to break, but some day common sense is going to be a deciding factor.
Yeah, because doubting a rather questionable feature in a CPU I quite intend to buy makes me a fanboi. Can you like get lost and take your CPU identity politics out this thread yet?
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#43
lilunxm12
TheLostSwedeUntil you plug in a USB hub and two 2.5" bus powered hard drives into it...
I'm not interested in killing my drives, even if they are spare. Attach a thumb drive is handy, but hard drives..... And I'm pretty sure those usb ports are designed for printers and thumb drives. Only crazy like linksys will put a esata on routers. I wounder how many user complains they will recieve every year.
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#44
Chaitanya
lilunxm12I'm not interested in killing my drives, even if they are spare. Attach a thumb drive is handy, but hard drives..... And I'm pretty sure those usb ports are designed for printers and thumb drives. Only crazy like linksys will put a esata on routers. I wounder how many user complains they will recieve every year.
pretty sure 0 considering only eSATA/USB Combo can deliver power while the other one is just for data transfer with no power delivery to attached peripheral.
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#45
mroofie
PatriotLess money, less power, more performance. K
Intel has stagnated, AMD has caught up... don't ignore their lead again or the cycle will continue.
K.. :pimp:
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#46
lilunxm12
Chaitanyapretty sure 0 considering only eSATA/USB Combo can deliver power while the other one is just for data transfer with no power delivery to attached peripheral.
Doesn't change the fact it's coming from the router and the drives running 24x7 are most likely not protected nor cooled. My home server provides way better condition, yet on average I lose one hard drive per year. If I have to plug something 24x7 on my router, I will only put the robust thumb drives.
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#47
geon2k2
So:
i5 like performance <150$
i7 like performance <200$
i7 HE like performance <500$

Prices are amazing, but we have to see performance.

Based on the prices, and considering there is no point for AMD to undercut Intel by much, I would assume the performance to also be like 2/3 of the comparable Intel CPU, probably targeting for a 10-20% better performance/price ratio. At least this is what I would do if I would be AMD management.
That would give a nice competitive product, while the margins will be huge compared to Intel as they'll not have the 60% die space wasted due to the iGPU, which nobody (99% of the desktop users) uses anyway.

Now AMD needs to come also with a nice mobile solution, this time with integrated graphics, as businesses need that and to use integrated for a laptop is much more common than for the desktop.
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#49
Gasaraki
Bruno_OHow can a Ryzen 7 (8 cores) and a Ryzen 5 (4 cores) - with the same clock speed - have the same 65W TDP? My math doesn't accept that :p I'm building a HTPC and was hoping for something way lower than that, as you can get a i5 7500 using only 42W (65W TDP includes the iGPU).
EDIT: after reading (again) what TDP is on wikipedia, I've figured that these two will have very different power consumption, but are limited to the 65W design. So... the 4C one should overclock way higher =)
Magic. Ryzen magic.
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#50
Mindweaver
Moderato®™
The 1600x looks nice. I may use this as my next VR machine if it lives up to the hype or a 1700x. I just bought a 6800k for a family member, and it's a really good chip, but it fell short on overclock compared to my 5820k. but it will do everything he needs it to do. I still have my 1055t chip that I use for crunching, but I've not used an AMD chip for my gaming rig in a long time. I really do hope these chips out perform the 2011 v3 chips.
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