Friday, March 31st 2017

AMD Community Update: BIOS Updates, Patches, Performance Improvements

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Yesterday, we covered how Ryzen's performance has seen a needed lift-up through an upcoming update to Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation. Performance improvements of up to 30% do wonders in bringing up the 8-core, 16-thread Ryzen 7 1800X's performance up to speed with its svelter gaming enemy, the 4-core, 8-thread i/ 7700K. And through a community update, AMD has now shed some light on the ongoing crusade for adapting an entire ecosystem to its Ryzen line of processors architecture features. Case in point: BIOS updates and game patches,
BIOS updates are incoming which, according to AMD's own Robert Hallock, build upon AMD's AGESA (AMD Generic Encapsulated Software Architecture) version 1.0.0.4 - which is essentially the precursors for any BIOS file, being "responsible for initializing AMD x86-64 processors during boot time, acting as something of a "nucleus" for the BIOS updates you receive for your motherboard". Hallock mentions how BIOSes based on this AGESA release will bring improvements towards the Ryzen ecosystem:
  • Reduced DRAM latency by approximately 6ns. This can result in higher performance for latency-sensitive applications.
  • Resolved a condition where an unusual FMA3 code sequence could cause a system hang.
  • Resolved the "overclock sleep bug" where an incorrect CPU frequency could be reported after resuming from S3 sleep.
  • AMD Ryzen Master (AMD's software overclocking utility) no longer requires the High-Precision Event Timer (HPET) - which itself impacts performance on AMD Ryzen CPUs. So while you would surely see some performance gains from overclocking, some of those would be offset by the performance penalty induced by HPET's enablement.
So, latency is improved, and that FMA3 bug is reportedly getting fixed. These take care of the BIOS part of the equation, with AMD promising the release of a new AGESA version in May that "focuses on overclocked DDR4 memory."

Other than that, a new game has received a patch which improves performance under an AMD Ryzen 7 system - DOTA 2, one of the most successful MOBAs ever released. This update, dated March 20 - sorry for the "slight" delay - brought about "Improved threading configuration for AMD Ryzen processors." This is a game whose developers didn't publicly commit to exploring performance penalties of their game code running on a Ryzen 7 processor, but who introduced a game update that improved performance on those conditions. On a system configured with AMD Ryzen7 1800X Processor, 2x8GB DDR4-2933 (15-17-17-35), GeForce GTX 1080 (378.92 driver), Gigabyte GA-AX370-Gaming5, Windows 10 x64 build 1607, and a 1920x1080 resolution, Hallock reports 15% higher minimum framerates (from 79 to 91), lowering input latency by around 1.7ms.
One can hope that this momentum of updates and platform support from both AMD and developers continues, and builds up to an ecosystem that has embraced the rise (eh) of another truly competitive x86 architecture.
Sources: Community @ AMD, DOTA 2

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40 Comments on AMD Community Update: BIOS Updates, Patches, Performance Improvements

#29
NdMk2o1o
Solidstate89The other guy was a bit a twat with how he worded his comment, but Intel does refer to its high-end platform processors as HEDT, not HEDP.

Don't ask me, but they do. All you have to do is search for Intel HEDP vs Intel HEDT and see what results you get.
Twat being the key word....

It's neither here nor there tbh he was being a dick for no reason and it was a typo (grammar Nazi) but still Intel hedp brings up the link I posted and he knew what I meant, guess that was all he had as his argument was null and void...

www.google.co.uk/search?q=Intel+hedp&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=TRjgWPmCKIr38AfRh7yYCw#spf=1
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#30
spnidel
NdMk2o1oTwat being the key word....

It's neither here nor there tbh he was being a dick for no reason and it was a typo (grammar Nazi) but still Intel hedp brings up the link I posted and he knew what I meant, guess that was all he had as his argument was null and void...

www.google.co.uk/search?q=Intel+hedp&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=TRjgWPmCKIr38AfRh7yYCw#spf=1
hey hey hey, don't give the little intel shill ideas, next thing you know he's going to "counter-wreck" you by saying that the keys T and P are far apart on the keyboard
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#31
Hood
So I'm a twat, a dick, a grammar Nazi, an Intel shill, and butthurt, and all that just because I like hardware that actually does what it's makers claim? Oh, and also because I want Ryzen to succeed, so there's more competition and lower prices? I was only expressing my opinion in post #11, which I am always happy to defend in a civil manner. In the next 4 posts, only ssdpro in post #14 had a reasonable reaction. The other 3 acted like I shot their dog, posting emotional knee-jerk comments, because someone dared to list the known issues of Ryzen (even though my message was positive and hopeful of quick success for Ryzen). We all want the same thing - hardware that works as advertised for a reasonable price - so why am I the bad guy? Post whatever you want, about any hardware, in a reasonable, unemotional tone, and I will give you the respect you deserve. If you make it personal, don't be surprised if you get banned. Do a little research on the psychology of why people root for the underdog, and maybe you'll better understand your reactions.
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#32
jigar2speed
HoodSo I'm a twat, a dick, a grammar Nazi, an Intel shill, and butthurt, and all that just because I like hardware that actually does what it's makers claim? Oh, and also because I want Ryzen to succeed, so there's more competition and lower prices? I was only expressing my opinion in post #11, which I am always happy to defend in a civil manner. In the next 4 posts, only ssdpro in post #14 had a reasonable reaction. The other 3 acted like I shot their dog, posting emotional knee-jerk comments, because someone dared to list the known issues of Ryzen (even though my message was positive and hopeful of quick success for Ryzen). We all want the same thing - hardware that works as advertised for a reasonable price - so why am I the bad guy? Post whatever you want, about any hardware, in a reasonable, unemotional tone, and I will give you the respect you deserve. If you make it personal, don't be surprised if you get banned. Do a little research on the psychology of why people root for the underdog, and maybe you'll better understand your reactions.
The irony is strong in this one.
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#33
m1dg3t
For a completely new chip/process/system I think Ryzen has delivered.
jigar2speedThe irony is strong in this one.
Fucking hilarious! Threatening to ban people too, priceless HaHaHa Must be an American :p Weak troll, is weak LoLoL

:toast:
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#34
spnidel
HoodSo I'm a twat, a dick, a grammar Nazi, an Intel shill, and butthurt, and all that just because I like hardware that actually does what it's makers claim? Oh, and also because I want Ryzen to succeed, so there's more competition and lower prices? I was only expressing my opinion in post #11, which I am always happy to defend in a civil manner. In the next 4 posts, only ssdpro in post #14 had a reasonable reaction. The other 3 acted like I shot their dog, posting emotional knee-jerk comments, because someone dared to list the known issues of Ryzen (even though my message was positive and hopeful of quick success for Ryzen). We all want the same thing - hardware that works as advertised for a reasonable price - so why am I the bad guy? Post whatever you want, about any hardware, in a reasonable, unemotional tone, and I will give you the respect you deserve. If you make it personal, don't be surprised if you get banned. Do a little research on the psychology of why people root for the underdog, and maybe you'll better understand your reactions.
wrote your first post in a snarky, passive aggressive tone, then when people call you out on it, you resort to pulling the victim card and claim that you supported ryzen all along, gee I wonder why that backfired

"I was only pretending to be retarded" ok bud
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#35
Hood
spnidelI wonder why that backfired
Who says it backfired? Now we all know who on this site is sensible and who is prone to personal attacks against those whose opinions differ from theirs. Maybe my tone was passive-agressive, perhaps even snarky, but I made no personal attacks in my original post, against anyone or any company, just stated my opinion on the situation. Others saw that as an excuse to make personal attacks on me and on Intel, and that's fine (I'm sure Intel doesn't care what you think either, especially as I see most of the haters are running Intel systems). 10 people can read the exact same sentence and come away with 10 different opinions about what it said, according to their own bias or prior experience. I celebrate differing opinions, and think it's sad that so many of you insist that only your own opinions are valid.
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#36
EarthDog
Maybe it's just me, but if I'm in a bull ring with a bull and wave a red cape, I expect the bull to come at me. Can't say I read it as squeaky clean as you wanted it to read.

Now, If I did that intentionally to get a rise out of people, well, the it would be silly as a matador in my analogy, and against forum rules here (flamebait). :)

Can I suggest to move on before we are 'encouraged' to by the staff? :)
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#37
Hood
EarthDogMaybe it's just me, but if I'm in a bull ring with a bull and wave a red cape, I expect the bull to come at me. Can't say I read it as squeaky clean as you wanted it to read.

Now, If I did that intentionally to get a rise out of people, well, the it would be silly as a matador in my analogy, and against forum rules here (flamebait). :)

Can I suggest to move on before we are 'encouraged' to by the staff? :)
Thank you. You've always been the voice of reason around here. and I bow to your superior wisdom Apologies to anyone who was upset by my posts.
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#38
Super XP
HoodYes, I want to thank all the early adopters of Ryzen who suffered through the uncertainty and doubt while trying to get it to boot, and then the blue screens/crashes every time they changed a BIOS setting, and all the memory problems. Without these brave pioneers, forging ahead in the face of major setbacks, Intel would still be sitting fat and greedy, laughing all the way to the bank, instead of all worried and talking about crazy price drops. The better Ryzen gets, the cheaper my next Intel system will be. Rock on AMD!
Interesting, because you should replace the word Ryzen with Conroe. Fill in the blanks, that is what happens with new micro architectures. Like Intel's Conroe, which eventually got ironed out, same will happen to Ryzen. Though you are over exaggerating all the so called Ryzen issues. of Course,
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#39
punani
HTCShouldn't that be ns instead of ms?
1/79 = 0,012658s / frame
1/91 = 0,010989s / frame
Difference: 0,001669s ~1.7ms
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#40
HTC
punani1/79 = 0,012658s / frame
1/91 = 0,010989s / frame
Difference: 0,001669s ~1.7ms
I stand corrected.
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