trparky7.38 cents per kWh.

XpectI'm sorry, but this news is completely WRONG! I even registered just to tell you so.

"Specs van Vega RX gezien. Tering wat power heeft die nodig." is NOT translated as anything with "Vega draws high power." It means "Seen the specs of Vega. It draws the power it needs."

crazyeyesreaperno one gives a fuck about power usage in reality. Its a bs metric we we use to see who can piss farther. What will matter is end all be all performance. If the card is affordable, and performs on par with a 1080Ti people will buy it. Power usage does not even form a blip on my radar. High end GPU expect high end power consumption. All that matters is performance per $ for a GPU.

AquinusI think that there are people who look at it that way but, lets look beyond just power consumption. What happens when a machine produces more heat? You have to get rid of it and most methods of moving heat beyond mere convection tends to make noise and more heat tends to mean more noise (not always but, it's added cost.) For someone who wants a quiet computer, higher power consumption makes that harder and more costly to achieve. For years I only wanted fast and that was that. It could sound like a server for all I cared but, as I've gotten older I've definitely re-evaluated my views on the matter to the point where the next machine I build is going to be factoring in noise because I don't always want to be wearing headphones or cranking up the speakers just to hear what's going on.

So while you've made an excellent point with respect to the cost of power itself, it doesn't factor in the downside of needing beefier cooling to handle it which has side-effects that aren't necessarily measured in financial cost but, there are some that aren't even related to the cost of energy itself.

crazyeyesreaperan aftermarket cooled GTX 1080Ti factory overclocked model will hit 300 - 320w VEGA air cooled is 300w TDP.... so tell me whats the problem again? 1080Ti reference still hits 267. Most people that are overclocking boost the TDP limit. So once again its a moot point. an aftermarket 1080Ti with TDP limit boosted can easily push 350w. So even if and its a big if that VEGA hits 375w as its total design power. It ends up not really being any worse than the GTX 1080Ti aftermarket cards available already.

crazyeyesreaperYes heat, the all mighty issue, Okay... so in todays world of mostly 65-95w CPUs vs previous generation of 125-140w CPUs being mainstream. Doesn't that basically cancel out the difference? SSDs use less power. Newer designs chip sets etc use less power. This is factoring in total wattage that will produce heat.

On a card by card basis an after market cooled GTX 1080 Ti factory overclocked model will hit 300 - 320w VEGA air cooled is 300w TDP.... so tell me whats the problem again? 1080 Ti reference still hits 267. Most people that are overclocking boost the TDP limit. So once again its a moot point. an after market 1080 Ti with TDP limit boosted can easily push 350w. So even if and its a big if that VEGA hits 375w as its total design power. It ends up not really being any worse than the GTX 1080 Ti after market cards available already.

Essentially the end all be all should result in a difference between the two of about 25w the real decider will be again performance and price. AMD will be using an AIO on the 375w card so noise isnt likely to be a huge issue. The air cooled card? after market designs from ASUS with the Strix or MSI with their Twin Frozr will mitigate noise.

FxGreat... here comes the wattage police.

RelayerI like when people have these fringe arguments. It means they don't really have anything of substance to knock it and are panicking.

cdawallOnly argument to have right now is a history of over-promises and under-deliveries. So far vega is a no show. If it absolutely phenomenal at professional work than good on it. That market can deal with hot loud cards. I will wait for gaming performance to show up before my final decision is made, but right now all I see is a hot loud card.

RelayerAnd you saw this card where? Did you possibly snap a photo or something to share with the rest of us?

cdawall300w tdp, dual slot blower card. Unless under that hood is filled with magic we are looking at the same old. If you remember the last 300w tdp product amd dropped was called a 290.

RelayerDo you do some kind of content creation that this card is designed for? Because this isn't the consumer gaming card. We'll have to see what kind of cooling they have for those.

cdawallThis is a prosumer card. It is meant to hit both points. You have the ability to run both what was traditionally a fire pro driver (hence why it is beating the Titan Xp which only runs consumer drivers) and the "Crimson" suite. If your argument that the card is "fine" is based off of it being in the hands of only "content creators" remember they do more than play in photoshop all day. Even when drawing in autocad having a machine sound like it is going to take flight is a bit distracting to say the least and trust me some of the renderings I did for NASA took more than a few minutes to render.