Wednesday, July 12th 2017
Kaspersky Lab Accused of Close Links to FSB, Removed From USG's GSA Listing
Yesterday, Bloomberg ran a story entitled "Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working With Russian Intelligence", in which the editors said that "Emails show the security-software maker developed products for the FSB and accompanied agents on raids." Eugene Kaspersky, Kaspersky CEO, naturally responded by saying that claims about Kaspersky Lab's ties to the Kremlin are "unfounded conspiracy theories" and "total BS." Bloomberg Businessweek even goes so far as to say that Kaspersky Lab has "maintained a much closer working relationship with Russia's main intelligence agency, the FSB, than it has publicly admitted. It has developed security technology at the spy agency's behest and worked on joint projects the CEO knew would be embarrassing if made public."
In the same article, Bloomberg's editors go on to say that "The U.S. government hasn't identified any evidence connecting Kaspersky Lab to Russia's spy agencies (...) In June, FBI agents visited a number of the company's U.S. employees at their homes, asking to whom they reported and how much guidance they received from Kaspersky's Moscow headquarters. And a bill was introduced in Congress that would ban the U.S. military from using any Kaspersky products (...)", with one senator calling ties between the company and the Kremlin "very alarming."Oleg Demidov, a consultant for researcher PIR Center in Moscow who studies Russian cyber attacks, said that "This is quite useless to find any real evidence, any real cases where Kaspersky Lab would violate their privacy policies and transfer some data from U.S. customers, from U.S. enterprise clients, to Russian intelligence or FSB."Kaspersky Lab has already responded to Bloomberg's article, in a post titled "Kaspersky Lab response clarifying the inaccurate statements published in a Bloomberg Businessweek article on July 11, 2017.". They go point to point against Bloomberg's article, and in fact, there are some things that do call out for our attention. For example, in Bloomberg's story, the editors say that "Kaspersky Lab confirmed the emails are authentic," while in Kaspersky's response, "Kaspersky Lab never confirmed the emails the media outlet claims to have are authentic, as the media outlet refused to share them with the company for validation to protect an anonymous source." The Bloomberg report also claims that Kaspersky Lab's former chief legal officer, Igor Chekunov, "was a former policeman and KGB officer." Kaspersky responded by saying that "Reporting it this way is misleading, as Mr. Chekunov worked for the Border Service in the Soviet Union - serving obligatory military service for two years. At that time, the Border Service was a part of KGB structure." I'll let our readers make out what they want of these, and will leave sources for both the Bloomberg article and Kaspersky's response below.The reverberations from this Bloomberg piece have already struck Kaspersky Lab, though; even as "The U.S. government hasn't identified any evidence connecting Kaspersky Lab to Russia's spy agencies (...)", Reuters reports that the US government has already removed Kaspersky Lab from the U.S. General Services Administration's, a government-approved list of vendors for contracts that cover information technology services and digital photographic equipment. Without their company on that list, Kaspersky's products are effectively barred from being used in US government settings through official channels, even though US agencies will still be able to use the company's product if they do purchase them through external channels. The move was taken "after review and careful consideration," a GSA spokeswoman said, adding that GSA's priorities "are to ensure the integrity and security of U.S. government systems and networks." A tremendous record in "review and careful consideration" timeframes, considering this decision comes only hours after the original Bloomberg article.
Sources:
Bloomberg Businessweek, Kaspersky USA, Document Cloud FY NDAA Summary, Reuters
In the same article, Bloomberg's editors go on to say that "The U.S. government hasn't identified any evidence connecting Kaspersky Lab to Russia's spy agencies (...) In June, FBI agents visited a number of the company's U.S. employees at their homes, asking to whom they reported and how much guidance they received from Kaspersky's Moscow headquarters. And a bill was introduced in Congress that would ban the U.S. military from using any Kaspersky products (...)", with one senator calling ties between the company and the Kremlin "very alarming."Oleg Demidov, a consultant for researcher PIR Center in Moscow who studies Russian cyber attacks, said that "This is quite useless to find any real evidence, any real cases where Kaspersky Lab would violate their privacy policies and transfer some data from U.S. customers, from U.S. enterprise clients, to Russian intelligence or FSB."Kaspersky Lab has already responded to Bloomberg's article, in a post titled "Kaspersky Lab response clarifying the inaccurate statements published in a Bloomberg Businessweek article on July 11, 2017.". They go point to point against Bloomberg's article, and in fact, there are some things that do call out for our attention. For example, in Bloomberg's story, the editors say that "Kaspersky Lab confirmed the emails are authentic," while in Kaspersky's response, "Kaspersky Lab never confirmed the emails the media outlet claims to have are authentic, as the media outlet refused to share them with the company for validation to protect an anonymous source." The Bloomberg report also claims that Kaspersky Lab's former chief legal officer, Igor Chekunov, "was a former policeman and KGB officer." Kaspersky responded by saying that "Reporting it this way is misleading, as Mr. Chekunov worked for the Border Service in the Soviet Union - serving obligatory military service for two years. At that time, the Border Service was a part of KGB structure." I'll let our readers make out what they want of these, and will leave sources for both the Bloomberg article and Kaspersky's response below.The reverberations from this Bloomberg piece have already struck Kaspersky Lab, though; even as "The U.S. government hasn't identified any evidence connecting Kaspersky Lab to Russia's spy agencies (...)", Reuters reports that the US government has already removed Kaspersky Lab from the U.S. General Services Administration's, a government-approved list of vendors for contracts that cover information technology services and digital photographic equipment. Without their company on that list, Kaspersky's products are effectively barred from being used in US government settings through official channels, even though US agencies will still be able to use the company's product if they do purchase them through external channels. The move was taken "after review and careful consideration," a GSA spokeswoman said, adding that GSA's priorities "are to ensure the integrity and security of U.S. government systems and networks." A tremendous record in "review and careful consideration" timeframes, considering this decision comes only hours after the original Bloomberg article.
48 Comments on Kaspersky Lab Accused of Close Links to FSB, Removed From USG's GSA Listing
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Intelligence_Directorate
In Russia, companies are mandated by law to store user data and share them with government agencies at will (no judge, no mandate, no nothing). So basically all those things that get Americans riled up, are legal in Russia.
The major difference is the ability to request private data at will. Take into account the close ties between FSB and most (all?) major enterprises in Russia and suddenly you have an economic climate that's toxic to anyone FSB doesn't approve of. Or a FSB employed neighbour that can snoop into your private life at will.
www.thedailybeast.com/us-blocks-china-telecom-bid-to-build-wireless-network-over-spying-concerns
Look into Huawei and the US government in general, you'll see a distrust that exists more clearly in previous years than a distrust of Russia.
So, yeah. That's been happening already. Or didn't you notice?
BitDefender is still nr. 1. in the World anyways, so no harm done...
*Asking for evidence that something does not happen is a classic way of doing things backwards. On this side of the iron curtain, it was common in the 50s and 60s for the prosecution to accuse you of something and then it was on you to prove that you didn't do it. This way, many good men ended up in prison, labour camps or worse. I'm not saying this because I think you're being unfair to the NSA (they've been caught red handed before, so it's reasonable to be at least suspicious), but to show why your reasoning is a little backwards.
Just pass the vodka...:toast:
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this yes and in the US it is illegal and unconstitutional to have General Warrants (one of many reasons we had a revolution) but yet we created an unconstitutional unaccountable "secret" court that rubber stamps unconstitutional General Warrants.
o_O:slap::banghead:
The US Government also tells phone companies to keep all text messages in a database for easy searches....thank Supreme Court for the horribly unconstitutional "third party doctrine" to "loop hole" our natural rights.
silly rabbit...
You just think they dont do it in your country......doesn't mean they don't actually do it. As history shows.....they still do it.
Which is worse? Doing it in the open or doing it under disguise where you don't actually know what they do?
IM not saying the west is perfect, but its a lot better than Russia, where mafia and political corruption are normal way of business.
There are a few high profile cases of western companies denying the government access to their IP. Like Apple, they would not give the government the key to unlock iphones.
The US also follows the Constitution/BOR/DOI :kookoo:
You seriously lack any knowledge on this topic lol.
Binney, Utah v. Strieff, Heien v. North Carolina, heller, and on and on and on we can go.
...I can probably off the top of my head name 20-100 examples of how untrue that is.