Monday, August 7th 2017

Intel Core i3-8300 Detailed - First Quad-Core i3

Intel Core i3-8300 could be the company's first quad-core processor to bear the Core i3 badge. Based on the 14 nm "Coffee Lake-S" silicon, This SKU could be priced in the upper-band of the Core i3 lineup (around the USD $150 mark), offering four cores. As if that isn't surprising enough, this quad-core chip even reportedly features HyperThreading, enabling 8 logical CPUs for the OS to deal with.

For the first time, a Core i3 part will have more logical CPUs than a Core i5 part, which lacks HyperThreading. Such a feature disparity won't be new, as current Core i3 dual-core SKUs feature HyperThreading, which Core i5 quad-core parts lack. The i3-8300, however, will lack Turbo Boost, which Core i5 SKUs will feature. The chip reportedly features a clock speed of 4.00 GHz. The L3 cache amount and TDP of this chip remain unknown at this point. Intel could launch Core i3 "Coffee Lake" processors only by late-2017 or early-2018.
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50 Comments on Intel Core i3-8300 Detailed - First Quad-Core i3

#1
GoldenX
Maybe it's still a dual core but has 4 threads per core, new Hyper Threading 2.0!
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#2
brian111
Based on what I have read the consensus seems to be that this is fake. Intel would be cannibalizing itself to offer it. Four cores/four threads would be more likely.
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#3
Unregistered
So the 8350k would be a 7700k. If true, it's quite sad that Intel had to downgrade the 7700k's replacement two rungs on the cpu ladder.

Also, wouldn't a fast 4c/8t be better than a slow 6c/6t in everything or even a fast 6c/6t overall? I3 quad-cores could be the i5 6-cores' archenemies! XD
#4
cucker tarlson
This doesn't add up at all if 8700K is pretty much certain to feature 6 cores 12 threads.
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#5
chaosmassive
cucker tarlsonThis doesn't add up at all if 8700K is pretty much certain to feature 6 cores 12 threads.
how it doesn't? theoretically, if core i3 has 4c/8t, core i5 6c/6t,and core i7 would be 6c/12t
that aside if this news turned to be true, then Intel pretty much killed their newborn X299 platform
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#6
cucker tarlson
cause there is too little improvement from 4c/8t to 6c/12t to make a SKU jump from i3 to i7, from $150 to $350. And how are they going to accommodate and price i5s into that line up with i3 nipping at its heels in multithreaded apllications ?
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#7
RejZoR
There is no way in hell Core i3 will come with 8 threads. Unless they'll clock it really low. Or lock it from overclocking.
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#8
T4C Fantasy
CPU & GPU DB Maintainer
RejZoRThere is no way in hell Core i3 will come with 8 threads. Unless they'll clock it really low. Or lock it from overclocking.
i dont know, its possible
Old Setup i3 2c 4t / i5 4c 4t / i7 4c 8t
New Setup i3 4c 8t / i5 6c 6t / i7 6c 12t

perfectly acceptable
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#9
Nihilus
8 threads at 4.0 ghz.

So basically an i7 7800!
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#10
_JP_
T4C Fantasyi dont know its possible
Old Setup i3 2c 4t / i5 4c 4t / i7 4c 8t
New Setup i3 4c 8t / i5 6c 6t / i7 6c 12t

perfectly acceptable
And it would be about time for this to happen!
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#11
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
T4C Fantasyi dont know its possible
Old Setup i3 2c 4t / i5 4c 4t / i7 4c 8t
New Setup i3 4c 8t / i5 6c 6t / i7 6c 12t

perfectly acceptable
The i5 would be really strange in that lineup. In heavily multithreaded apps the i3 would best it. But it's Intel, I wouldn't be surprised if they made i5s identical to i3 except they have boost. Just to make things more confusing. Moar cores/$ is good, but I would hate shopping for CPUs.
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#12
Parn
FrickThe i5 would be really strange in that lineup. In heavily multithreaded apps the i3 would best it. But it's Intel, I wouldn't be surprised if they made i5s identical to i3 except they have boost. Just to make things more confusing. Moar cores/$ is good, but I would hate shopping for CPUs.
For the laptop versions of i3 and i5, Intel have already been doing this. i3Us are 2c/4t no boost whereas i5Us are 2c/4t with boost.

So if the new lineup turned out to be i3 4c/8t no boost, i5 4c/8t boost instead of 6c/6t and i7 6c/12t, I wouldn't be surprised.
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#13
P4-630
If that's the case I wouldn't mind taking an 8-thread 4GHz i3! LOL
The downside is these 8xxx don't seem to run in Z170 motherboards now do they? :ohwell:

Then my next CPU upgrade would be an i7 6700K.

By the way of course M$ will force you to go windows 10 with using these processors......:banghead:
You won't be able to get updates anymore on windows 8.1....:banghead:
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#14
ShurikN
T4C Fantasyi dont know, its possible

New Setup i3 4c 8t / i5 6c 6t / i7 6c 12t

perfectly acceptable
And with that, Intel just killed the entire i5 lineup. Not gonna happen.
It'll probably be like this:
i3 - 4c/4t
i5 - 6c/6t
i7 - 6c/12t
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#15
P4-630
ShurikNAnd with that, Intel just killed the entire i5 lineup. Not gonna happen.
It'll probably be like this:
i3 - 4c/4t
i5 - 6c/6t
i7 - 6c/12t
I think so.
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#16
XiGMAKiD
I hope it's true, please be true

But if it's true, what's the catch?
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#17
champsilva
brian111Based on what I have read the consensus seems to be that this is fake. Intel would be cannibalizing itself to offer it. Four cores/four threads would be more likely.
Exactly.

This is a 4790/4790k
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#18
Imsochobo
FrickThe i5 would be really strange in that lineup. In heavily multithreaded apps the i3 would best it. But it's Intel, I wouldn't be surprised if they made i5s identical to i3 except they have boost. Just to make things more confusing. Moar cores/$ is good, but I would hate shopping for CPUs.
less cache maybe, no VT functions and cannibalized by reducing features is an option.
AVX +++
tons of options which they've done in the past :)

4C8T is worse than 6C due to the now 1.375mb cache per core thus giving the 6 core a larger cache which have a huge effect as we all know.
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#20
R0H1T
Imsochoboless cache maybe, no VT functions and cannibalized by reducing features is an option.
AVX +++
tons of options which they've done in the past :)

4C8T is worse than 6C due to the now 1.375mb cache per core thus giving the 6 core a larger cache which have a huge effect as we all know.
This isn;t SKLx it has the same cache as KBL & SKL, just a six core SKL basically, if there;s an i3 with 4c/8t I bet it'll be nothing short of $200 & won't be unlocked IMO.
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#21
jabbadap
T4C Fantasyi dont know, its possible
Old Setup i3 2c 4t / i5 4c 4t / i7 4c 8t
New Setup i3 4c 8t / i5 6c 6t / i7 6c 12t

perfectly acceptable
If that so wonder if there's unclocked i3, coming. At least there is four core K processor on their roadmap:


What if they took i9 from hedt on to desktop platform too?
So full line up would be something:
Celeron 2c/2t, Pentium 2c/4t, i3 4c/4t, i5 4c/8t, i7 6c/6t and i9 6c/12t.
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#23
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Honestly I think Intel should make a gaming series. Like iG or iX or iZ or something. i1. Whatever. It would consist of:

2/4t $80, 4c/4t $150, 4c/8t $220, 6c/8t $whatever. All without iGPU, all without any bells and whistles, a good amount of cache (hence the price premium), fully unlocked and crazy stock speeds. Then the normal CPUs could be left alone by the gamers and their grubby opinions.
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#24
silentbogo
Hyperthreaded 4C? No way.
With current efficiency of Intel's hyperthreading that 4c/8t chip will destroy a hypothetical 6c/6t Core i5.
If intel buffs i3 lineup to compete with newly risen Ryzen 3 (pun intended), which in its turn was created as a direct competitor to current i3 lineup, then there is no way Team Blue will go for total overkill.
These #fakenews break the logic even further, with 4C4T pentiums and celerons. Intel barely moved on to 2C/4T in desktop Pentium segment this year(8mo ago, more specifically).

Another dead giveaway in the original post is this:
Core i3 8300,4C8T, 4G, no Core frequency, TDP unknown, the authenticity to be confirmed

Suspiciously looks like i7-6700K's evil twin brother.
ShurikNIt'll probably be like this:
i3 - 4c/4t
i5 - 6c/6t
i7 - 6c/12t
That's a more proper speculation :laugh:
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#25
Prima.Vera
If this is true, than intel is really idiotic.
4c/8t CPU would go in a lineup like this:

i3 - 4c/8t
i5 - 6c/12t
i7 - 8c/16t


That would be the most logical path.
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