Friday, September 29th 2017
Core i7-8700K Reviewed by Lab501
Ahead of the 5th October reviews NDA, Lab501 posted their review of the Core i7-8700K six-core processor using samples not provided by Intel, paired with an Aorus Z370 Ultra Gaming motherboard. The tests reveal that the i7-8700K trades blows with the Ryzen 7 1800X in multi-threaded tests, despite two fewer cores, and has a clear leadership in single-threaded tests. It also reveals that the i7-8700K may not be as pricier than the i7-7700K as previously thought. Interestingly, the i7-8700K also spells trouble for "Skylake-X" Core i7 SKUs such as the i7-7800X and i7-7820X, as it offers multi-threaded performance in proximity to them, while being cheaper overall.
The Core i7-8700K is able to sustain its Turbo Boost frequencies of 4.20 GHz better than Intel's other Core X HEDT chips, which translates into higher gaming performance. The tests reveal that today's games still don't need six cores, and on the merit of high sustained clock speeds alone, the i7-8700K is shaping up to be among the fastest processors you can choose for gaming PC builds. Lab501 also got the i7-8700K to overclock to 5.1 GHz with relative ease. The chip runs feisty hot at overclocked speeds, but rewards with HEDT-like performance. Find other interesting findings of Lab501 in the source link below.
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The Core i7-8700K is able to sustain its Turbo Boost frequencies of 4.20 GHz better than Intel's other Core X HEDT chips, which translates into higher gaming performance. The tests reveal that today's games still don't need six cores, and on the merit of high sustained clock speeds alone, the i7-8700K is shaping up to be among the fastest processors you can choose for gaming PC builds. Lab501 also got the i7-8700K to overclock to 5.1 GHz with relative ease. The chip runs feisty hot at overclocked speeds, but rewards with HEDT-like performance. Find other interesting findings of Lab501 in the source link below.
102 Comments on Core i7-8700K Reviewed by Lab501
So yeah, unless you can use the terms you are using properly, you're just regurgitating nonsense, because it's clear you don't understand what you are saying.
If Intel didn't want to allow overclocking at all, there would be no "K" processors.Yet, they are and most likely you are too since fraudulent RMAs are rolled into the price of their CPUs as a cost of doing business. Do you think everyone that kills their chip is honest and just eats the cost and buys a new CPU? Some surely do, some surely don't.
... did I really need to explain that difference??? Seriously?
And it's funny that was the only retort... considering it works at stock and overclocks the CPU out of spec. The problem is that it's just not as far as some people want. Half those people that want it and think it "sucks" also believe you can pull 300MHz+ more because of it which simply isn't true. So people are now crying... wAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh Intel didn't let me get another POTENTIAL 100-200Mhz and are not putting out their aboslute fastest they can wAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh... give me a break. :)
Mountains and mole hills here...
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I crack myself up.The problem is it is an obvious anti-consumer practice that they rolled out after years of doing it properly due to an amazing lack of competition. It increases temps by 10-20C and limits clocks. Why is that ok? I can tell you why it's not ok - but maybe we should we get a few more years of quad cores while we are at it, too see how long the "suck it up and deal with it" mentality can last.
We are not animals. We demand solder.
I feel like we've reached a point where no one has anything relevant to say anymore and we've come down to the most basic and feeble arguments and points.
If people can stop being overdramatic about it, perhaps it wouldn't warrant a response and the inevitable digression into the TPU abyss. The real problem is its being skewered and shat on as if it did "SUCK". People like me have to Hoover out a more tempered, and accurate response..... and then get labeled as the 'bad guy' for "griping" about those details...
There's a 'lot of ya' that need a people's elbow to the dome to snap out of it. :p :laugh: :D :lovetpu:
And like I said, I don't care, just pointing out the obvious in hopes that when people complain about this issue, they formulate decent arguments that can then be used to perhaps get them what they want... rather than hopping on the Goldilocks train.
Thing is , chances are no one will ever agree with the opposing party on this matter from what I've seen regardless of whether or not you are formally correct.
There are 2 groups here, first the ones who claim to be able to OC their chip to 5 Ghz with TIM, and they are right, the other group which run into thermal limits with their chips, and they are also right.
The problem with TIM is the inconsistency. One chip might do 5 Ghz with <80 C load temps, another might reach 100 at 4.7 Ghz. I've had multiple chips and have seen a lot of variance in the temps with TIM.
Solder is better than TIM any day. TIM may work for some people, but when it doesn't work well, it can be frustrating. I couldn't push more than 1.35v on my 6700k without reaching 100 C even on a water cooling with a 280 mm rad. The rad was cool to touch. Others were pushing 1.4v with ease.
I considered delidding several times, just didn't want to spend so much time on it, so settled at a lower OC.
I didn't fight fire with fire. I put a cover on the pan by showering the forum with facts in an effort to keep the collective's head out of their rears. :)
@jagjitnatt +1
Like, you've simply explained what anyone with access to many CPUs sees within one SKU... even soldered ones.
Honestly, any sense of realism is far gone here by now. Meanwhile, all Intel had to do to hurt the brilliant Ryzen line up, was pull a release forward and here we are. With that awful paste no less.
Complaining that the winning team does it wrong - only on forum and comment sections does this really happen, do try this in the real world, you'll be laughed at.
Maybe the answer to make everyone happy is that intel just sells a delidded chip with the IHS in the box :p
Ill be honest, there hasnt been a more interesting mainstream CPU since the 5775C with this 8700K. Its a real step in the right direction for unlocking more than quad core for gaming, much more so than Ryzen has pushed that forward. In a couple of years, thats really going to pay off for all of us. The whole TIM discussion should be second fiddle to this IMO.
Delidding has helped drop temps by as much as 25 C on some CPUs. One cannot be blind to that. Some CPUs, hell, most CPUs might not benefit from it, but there are millions of CPUs out there that need a delid for any OC headroom.
As I said, it is this inconsistency in application of TIM that causes different temps.
It is also frustrating when you spend 100s of dollars on high end CPUs and top of the line cooling gear, but you never use it to its potential because of something as trivial as TIM which literally costs less than a cent.
Seems like a good chip though.
Granted, at stock, intels cpus dont require solder so overstating solder as necessary for anything but overclocking is a reach. But denying solders benefits of maintaining thermal headroom while overclocking is equally silly.