SteevoUnfortunately in this case I kinda have to disagree, Edge, Firefox, Chrome have all allowed high precision timer access to Java and its notorious security issues, and this allows and will grant complete access to a PC if exploited with the hardware, and all it will take is a malicious ad on Facebook, youtube, TPU, or elsewhere to become compromised. Then Java can start building an array of what you type and it looks just like you are filling out forms. Or it could allow code injection at system level access, welcome to the next gen crypto where data recovery is impossible unless you pay, or for business your customer list, financial info, transaction records, hell even decrypting stored payment and other info is right there for the asking. www.tomshardware.com/news/meltdown-spectre-exploit-browser-javascript,36221.html www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2018-01/

Sounds like a new form of ransomeware

lexluthermiesterThat doesn't really have much to do with the topic at hand. I'd also disagree with all three points as they are purely anecdotal. AMD makes a solid set of products.

Read what he says in other threads, he posted that because of the hypocrisy Intel is committing.

To me the damage has already been done.

who knows maybe they would lose performance if they have implemented it in the CPU in the first place and maybe that was the reason to avoid it LOL

SteevoUnfortunately in this case I kinda have to disagree, Edge, Firefox, Chrome have all allowed high precision timer access to Java and its notorious security issues, and this allows and will grant complete access to a PC if exploited with the hardware, and all it will take is a malicious ad on Facebook, youtube, TPU, or elsewhere to become compromised. Then Java can start building an array of what you type and it looks just like you are filling out forms. Or it could allow code injection at system level access, welcome to the next gen crypto where data recovery is impossible unless you pay, or for business your customer list, financial info, transaction records, hell even decrypting stored payment and other info is right there for the asking. www.tomshardware.com/news/meltdown-spectre-exploit-browser-javascript,36221.html www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2018-01/

Exactly right.

That was quick. And well deserved, too.

The American way huh, EH! Sue sue sue!

Hello RYZEN, Here I come :rockout:

xkm1948This is so stupid, sue everything for like what? $5 for each of us?

$5 for you, but tens of billions of dollars in losses (cash and market cap) for Intel, forcing them to think twice before being d***s again.

John DoeWhat known info? The article clearly states that Intel went ahead with the launch after learning about the vulnerability.

This!

Funny how these lawsuits will get thrown out of court faster that Kevin Spacey out of Netflix. Not only they would have to proove that there is an impact in certain workloads but they will have to measure it as well. So far all the benches show no change whatsoever. Come to think about it if Google Microsoft Apple aren't taking this to court (which out of all the bunch would be the most entitled to do so) these penhandlers are looking for a way to make a quick buck. Disgusting

fullinfusionThe American way huh, EH! Sue sue sue!

Hello RYZEN, Here I come :rockout:

Wait for RyZen 2 and Threadripper 2 though. With clock speed up and IMC improved there would be little reason to go for Intel

John DoeWhat known info? The article clearly states that Intel went ahead with the launch after learning about the vulnerability.

Well, they're cleary not going to cancel/delay a product launch after announcing and ramping up production. Not like a party where one can make a few phone calls to cancel rsvps and only have to deal with some wasted food.

eidairaman1Read what he says in other threads, he posted that because of the hypocrisy Intel is committing.

Every company is run by human beings. There is always going to be some accusations of hypocritical behavior. And every company is guilty of some level actual hypocrisy. Calling Intel hypocritical serves no purpose as everyone else is just as guilty to some people on some level. What's is important is actually solving the problem at hand and learning from it. Moaning and whining(not accusing you) about perceived tit and tat is a waste of time, effort and energy, both intellectual and emotional.

If a crime was committed by Intel's CEO, which seems unlikely given what is already known, the authorities will deal with it. What seems entirely more likely is that Intel has had a string of vulnerabilities pop up that have caught them off guard and the sale of stocks was a coincidence. I don't believe any deliberate wrongdoing was done by Intel any more than AMD's RX560 thing. Life happens. Answer the challenge and move on.

Spectre, affecting everyone, has caught the whole industry of guard. Meltdown is fixed with software patches. No big deal. Spectre is going to be the bigger challenge and everyone will have to work together to solve it.

Tons of talk about legal action, still no fix..........

jaggerwildTons of talk about legal action, still no fix..........

Maybe you don't understand. Meltdown is fixed. Spectre is going to take a long time to fix because of how and why the problem exists. It affects the very core of how CPU's, ALL CPU's not just Intel's, have worked since the 90's.