Sunday, January 21st 2018

NVIDIA Asks Retailers to Ensure Gamers Get Graphics Cards

The crypto-currency plague continues to nibble away at the PC gaming ecosystem, driving gamers to consoles. This affects the long-term prospects of graphics processor manufacturers like NVIDIA, who will find it difficult to pull gamers lost to consoles back to the PC ecosystem, should newer cost-effective ASICs arrest the viability of using GPUs to mine crypto-currency (as it did on several occasions in the past). The company is reportedly writing to PC hardware retailers to take steps to ensure that PC gamers have access to graphics cards first, and only then crypto-currency miners. The request doesn't prescribe any measures to control graphics card prices that have clearly gone out of hand.

Retailers in Germany responded lukewarmly, by setting quantity limitations, ranging between 2 to 5 units per order (and not per-household). Retailers responding to ComputerBase.de commented that they sometimes receive orders by e-mail with quantities running over 100 units. NVIDIA emphasizes that this request is a "recommendation" on its part, and not a directive, and that it would never interfere in freedom of commerce (by letting market-forces sell $200 graphics cards at $1000). The only people standing to lose are PC gamers who haven't upgraded their graphics cards in over two years, who are not able to play today's AAA games at recommended settings, especially when newer games are implementing the new DirectX 12 API, and their eye-candy have leaped to levels 2+ year old high-end graphics cards struggle to keep up with.
Source: ComputerBase.de
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58 Comments on NVIDIA Asks Retailers to Ensure Gamers Get Graphics Cards

#51
cucker tarlson
Jozsef DornyeiThe only person would not like this is a miner who wants to buy a graphic card into his rig...
or everyone else who wants to buy a graphic card into his rig.
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#52
efikkan
Jozsef DornyeiWell - Crypto mining will not stop and all graphic cards are sold to crypto miners - so gamers cannot buy graphic cards at all.

My solution ensures that gamers _can_ buy GPUs.

AMD and NVidia simple sells 50% of the stock to GPU on mobo manufacturers.
No, the majority of cards are not sold to dedicated miners.

Even though mining is ridiculous, the GPU shortage is greatly exaggerated. It's more a local shortage than anything.
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#53
Casecutter
efikkanNo, the majority of cards are not sold to dedicated miners.

Even though mining is ridiculous, the GPU shortage is greatly exaggerated. It's more a local shortage than anything.
When Newegg here in the States can list a 6 pack of Frontier Edition Air Cooled Vega's with Riser cards... they wouldn't be bundling that for $7000 if they didn't think they could sell in a couple of days!
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6V66RH9417

Or a generic Sapphire Pulse 580 8Gb for $490... though to get you to bite the "Free Gift" is a ASUS VZ229H 21" Monitor
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202278

Keep telling yourself that...
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#54
Power Slave
Casecutterwww.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6V66RH9417
When Newegg here in the States can list a 6 pack of Frontier Edition Air Cooled Vega's with Riser cards... they wouldn't be bundling that for $7000 if they didn't think they could sell in a couple of days!
Keep telling yourself that...
Thank you +1


Yea If only Nvidia can take out the compute side of the GPU out while leaving the gaming architecture in tact, they’d have a gamers GPU again. I would switch back to Nvidia in a heartbeat if their cards were available again , despite having a Freesync monitor.

Remember gamers were here before miners. Mining has ruined the gaming industry. 970s are still the main GPU being used on steam because no one can afford to upgrade. That’s how long this problem has been. Even gaming will have to stagnate performance because there won’t be anyone that can play their games if they need more GPU.

Sad. There’s no way I’m paying inflated prices I can’t afford it, I have 500 bucks and I can’t pick up a Vega 56. Because that’s all it’s worth.
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#55
yotano211
CasecutterWhen Newegg here in the States can list a 6 pack of Frontier Edition Air Cooled Vega's with Riser cards... they wouldn't be bundling that for $7000 if they didn't think they could sell in a couple of days!
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6V66RH9417

Or a generic Sapphire Pulse 580 8Gb for $490... though to get you to bite the "Free Gift" is a ASUS VZ229H 21" Monitor
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202278

Keep telling yourself that...
Hope you know that those 6 AMD Vega's with the riser is not sold on Newegg but a 3rd party seller, check the "Sold and Shipped by:".

The rx580 is sold by Newegg but at a higher cost. Cant blame newegg for trying to make something extra.
Power SlaveThank you +1


Yea If only Nvidia can take out the compute side of the GPU out while leaving the gaming architecture in tact, they’d have a gamers GPU again. I would switch back to Nvidia in a heartbeat if their cards were available again , despite having a Freesync monitor.

Remember gamers were here before miners. Mining has ruined the gaming industry. 970s are still the main GPU being used on steam because no one can afford to upgrade. That’s how long this problem has been. Even gaming will have to stagnate performance because there won’t be anyone that can play their games if they need more GPU.

Sad. There’s no way I’m paying inflated prices I can’t afford it, I have 500 bucks and I can’t pick up a Vega 56. Because that’s all it’s worth.
Power SlaveThank you +1


Yea If only Nvidia can take out the compute side of the GPU out while leaving the gaming architecture in tact, they’d have a gamers GPU again. I would switch back to Nvidia in a heartbeat if their cards were available again , despite having a Freesync monitor.

Remember gamers were here before miners. Mining has ruined the gaming industry. 970s are still the main GPU being used on steam because no one can afford to upgrade. That’s how long this problem has been. Even gaming will have to stagnate performance because there won’t be anyone that can play their games if they need more GPU.

Sad. There’s no way I’m paying inflated prices I can’t afford it, I have 500 bucks and I can’t pick up a Vega 56. Because that’s all it’s worth.
What kind of "compute" do you want to take out. Playing games is also some kind of "compute". It makes so sense what you just wrote.
And if playing games instead of making extra money is all you have to do in life then do something else.
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#56
Vayra86
Jozsef DornyeiWell - Crypto mining will not stop and all graphic cards are sold to crypto miners - so gamers cannot buy graphic cards at all.
My solution ensures that gamers _can_ buy GPUs.
AMD and NVidia simple sells 50% of the stock to GPU on mobo manufacturers.

The only person would not like this is a miner who wants to buy a graphic card into his rig...
Fine bro, if you think this is a great idea, then its a great idea. Implement it somewhere, and you can prove it.

Same with the 'cut out some compute' right below you.... give it a shot sometime! I am really looking forward to the results.

These 'ideas' fall in the same category as this Nvidia announcement thread you're typing in - complete and utter nonsense that will never happen.
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#57
Casecutter
yotano211Hope you know that those 6 AMD Vega's with the riser is not sold on Newegg but a 3rd party seller, check the "Sold and Shipped by:".
Oh, I saw that but ever since the Chinese took hold of Egg I'd consider they have complicity in who and what is listed. For all you know Egg's buying power gets ahold of those, then moves them to the 3 party seller... (in the real world they are more know as "Off-Shore accounts" when you want not to know whom is paying who.)
yotano211The rx580 is sold by Newegg but at a higher cost. Cant blame newegg for trying to make something extra.
I'd rather Egg say "Gamers Special"... say the RX 580 Gb is $280 when purchase with a list of monitors you can consider, not some panel that has no use for a gamer that buying a 580 8Gb. If they had say the Acer XG270HU bundle with that card for $650 that would entice more folks, while it is returned as the bundle. That would slow some miners and provide gamers from feeling totally screwed.
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#58
trparky
AMD Ryzen™ 5 2400G with Radeon™ RX Vega 11 Graphics
I have a bad feeling that eventually discreet video cards are going to be something that only the rich can afford and that the rest of us are going to have to settle for systems with integrated graphics like that one I linked to above. When that day comes (and I think it's already here) it will be a sad day for PC gaming, a sad day indeed.

That Ryzen™ 5 2400G looks like a damn good deal considering just how damn expensive video cards are. Not only do you get a 4-core/8-thread processor but you also get semi-decent graphics power all for under $200. Granted it won't run your games on Ultra settings but at least you may be able to play it at Medium settings without breaking your bank account.
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