Tuesday, June 19th 2018

First Benchmarks, CPU-Z Screenshots of AMD Ryzen Threadripper 32-core CPU Surface

First benchmarks and CPU-Z screenshots of AMD's upcoming Ryzen Threadripper 32-core monster have surfaced, courtesy of HKEPC. The on-time-for-launch (as AMD puts it) 12 nm "Pinnacle Ridge" processor has apparently been christened "Threadripper 2990X", which does make sense - should AMD be thinking of keeping the 2920X moniker for 12 cores and 1950X for 16-cores, then it follows a 20-core 2960X, a 24-core 2970X, a 28-core 2980X, and the aforementioned 32-core 2990X. whether AMD would want to offer such a tiered lineup of HEDT processors, however, is another matter entirely, and certainly open for discussion - too much of a good thing can actually happen, at least where ASP of the Threadripper portfolio is concerned.

On the CPU-Z screenshot, the 2990X is running at 3.4 GHz base with up to 4.0 GHz XFR, and carries a 250 W TDP - a believable and very impressive achievement, testament to the 12 nm process and the low leakage it apparently produces. The chip was then overclocked up to 4.2 GHz on all cores, which caused for some thermal throttling, since performance was lower than when the chip was clocked at just 4 GHz on all cores. Gains on this particular piece of silicon were reserved up to 4.12 GHz - the jump to 4.2 GHz must have required another bump in voltage that led to the aforementioned throttling. At 4.12 GHz, the chip scored 6,399 points in Cinebench - a remarkable achievement.
Sources: HKEPC, via Videocardz
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70 Comments on First Benchmarks, CPU-Z Screenshots of AMD Ryzen Threadripper 32-core CPU Surface

#26
kabarsa
NicklasAPJMy hobby is overclock and benchmarking, BUT i dont Want to go minus C, i like to stay over The ambait temps, I have played with LN2, but The other is more Fun to see What you Can Do with normal “water” cooling. Im just saying, i wish We could Get cpus that are higher clocks. Not that it would happen right now, maybe with amd 7 nm, or intel next gen, We Can only wait and see :)
There is a reason server marked do not push for 4+ GHz, because it's not the sweet spot for performance/watt for silicon. And they adopted large core/processor count a long time ago, everything that really needs it scales quite well with thread count or have some special instructions/hardware to speed things up. Desktop software will have to do it too. And even 3 GHz is enough for REAL work. Or you can wait for some exotic materials in the future.
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#27
RealNeil
I'll probably save some money and get this one. I held-off on Threadripper because I got a fantastic deal on an Intel i9-7900X setup.
I really like the 7900X, but this new Threadripper sounds like it's gonna be fun.
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#28
PowerPC
This is something I would have expected 10 years from now. Now please give me a graphics card, AMD.
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#29
kastriot
Hear hear! 32/64 core cpu and it's not Intel :)

P.S(Death to trolls!)
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#30
Hood
NicklasAPJWell is quite nice, but is only cinebench, real world performace is a other story, clock speed is to low.

Hate this Core War,16 cores is the perfect sweetspot, give us 10-16 Cores @ 4.8Ghz out of the box instead.
Why didn't they show the CPU-Z screenshot when it was performing these "amazing" cinebench runs? I don't believe these figures - the best and most expensive Epyc, the 32-core 7601, has a base clock of just 2.2GHz, Max Turbo Core Frequency (single core) 3.2GHz, and All Core Boost Frequency of just 2.7GHz (and Epyc is the top-binned Ryzen chip). I know it's a die shrink, 14nm to 12nm, but to get 3.4 base and 4.1 on all cores is a long stretch. They must have used two of Intel's one horsepower chillers, and around 6 volts vcore. Is this the future of CPU marketing, endless one-up-man-ship with deceitful staged demos? Like they finally both decided, "screw it!, we'll take a page from P.T.Barnum's playbook, and sell these suckers like carnival barkers on a midway!" Interesting time for us hardware nerds, for sure, but dignity and professionalism seem to have fallen by the wayside. Anyway, I can't wait to see what it takes to get these numbers. This might be the latest version of FX-9590.
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#31
Fouquin
HoodAnyway, I can't wait to see what it takes to get these numbers. This might be the latest version of FX-9590.
Your wait won't be a long one, and I fear you may be wildly incorrect with that assessment. It's very likely this was achieved on a TR4 capable all-in-one water cooler, or quite possibly the new Wraith cooler AMD was showing off only two weeks ago.
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#32
Xzibit
HoodWhy didn't they show the CPU-Z screenshot when it was performing these "amazing" cinebench runs? I don't believe these figures - the best and most expensive Epyc, the 32-core 7601, has a base clock of just 2.2GHz, Max Turbo Core Frequency (single core) 3.2GHz, and All Core Boost Frequency of just 2.7GHz (and Epyc is the top-binned Ryzen chip). I know it's a die shrink, 14nm to 12nm, but to get 3.4 base and 4.1 on all cores is a long stretch. They must have used two of Intel's one horsepower chillers, and around 6 volts vcore. Is this the future of CPU marketing, endless one-up-man-ship with deceitful staged demos? Like they finally both decided, "screw it!, we'll take a page from P.T.Barnum's playbook, and sell these suckers like carnival barkers on a midway!" Interesting time for us hardware nerds, for sure, but dignity and professionalism seem to have fallen by the wayside. Anyway, I can't wait to see what it takes to get these numbers. This might be the latest version of FX-9590.
You could have just read the source
HKEPCAlthough the Ryzen Threadripper 2990X has 32 cores and 64 threads, its maximum TDP is 250W, but its overclocking ability is very good. With the help of the CORSAIR H150i PRO water-cooled radiator, the operating voltage is successfully overclocked to 4.12GHz at 1.38v and the Cinebench R15 is completed. The benchmark test scored as high as 6,399, which is very alarming. INTEL is no longer trying to maintain a toothpaste-type product update strategy, and HEDT's high-end market may be seriously lost.
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#33
deu
4,0 Ghz boost on 32 threads is insane. Intel is going to bleed to challenge this cpu... To be honest realistically I dont think they can before 10nm. A well deserved win to AMD! Now we just wait for the dirty propaganda with "glued die's" and "unstable supplyer" from intel! :D
NicklasAPJWhat are you so angry over? I just Want less cores with more clock speed. But fair, you gave me a laugh. Im not a intel fan, but your clearly a amd fan boy wich you Cant have a Real talk with.



Idd it is, i just thing this have go to far, they are only putting more cores In there cpus to fight, instead of incresse clock speed.
Dude... If you want less cores why look at a threadripper!?!? If you want less cores you can get offerings from both intel and AMD; 8700K or 2700X ; 6c/12t and 8c/16t. OR you can buy a "small" threadripper with 16 cores OR you can buy a intel cpu with 10 cores (if you are a millionaire)

It makes NO sense to complain that you want less cores and higher clock with that is a completely different segment that is already available! :0


EDIT: read through your posts and you say you need the cores for 3D benchmarking. Computex just showed that 8700K is the best gaming cpu to overclock so you should go for that instead. All the highscores was made with that more or less :0
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#34
Jism
6k of points in CB is equivalent to 8x 8320's overclocked at 4.8GHz.
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#35
xkm1948
I can totally use this. May be a good time to start my small business of personal genome sequencing and analysis.

This 10c20t is totally maxed out. Time to go big

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#36
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
This looks cool!
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#37
R0H1T
xkm1948I can totally use this. May be a good time to start my small business of personal genome sequencing and analysis.

This 10c20t is totally maxed out. Time to go big

At this rate, at which AMD is increasing core counts, I wonder if you'll have enough systems to replace that you currently own/operate. Of course if you're starting everything anew this is the time to jump in, except the part about RAM & GPU prices.
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#38
Midland Dog
NicklasAPJWell is quite nice, but is only cinebench, real world performace is a other story, clock speed is to low.

Hate this Core War,16 cores is the perfect sweetspot, give us 10-16 Cores @ 4.8Ghz out of the box instead.
Dead on, if we as consumers start losing single threaded performance in exchange for cores we all lose, just look at the xeon phi 64 core (not as a future hedt cpu but as an anology for what the car war could turn into). No one wins when single core starts going down as most apps would take 8 cores with higher clocks/ipc than having a 28 cores (intel) that are mission impossible to power at high speeds, if intel/amd made a new uArch for high core count that has immensely more ipc then having lots of cores is actually doable because you wont have to aim for high overclocks which makes heat output and power usage go exponentially higher (intel again)
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#39
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
NicklasAPJWhere did i Said i need it for gameing? You takeing tings out of no where.
14-18 cores is for my NEEDS of use, not Gaming, but 3D benchmarking.
So you don't actually need it; you just want it. I thought you had some weird and possibly interesting use case. :(
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#40
R0H1T
Midland DogDead on, if we as consumers start losing single threaded performance in exchange for cores we all lose, just look at the xeon phi 64 core (not as a future hedt cpu but as an anology for what the car war could turn into). No one wins when single core starts going down as most apps would take 8 cores with higher clocks/ipc than having a 28 cores (intel) that are mission impossible to power at high speeds, if intel/amd made a new uArch for high core count that has immensely more ipc then having lots of cores is actually doable because you wont have to aim for high overclocks which makes heat output and power usage go exponentially higher (intel again)
The only way to do that is to stop patching your OS & stop at CFL, since apparently ICL will have hardware mitigation for spectre/meltdown.

In short IPC is going down, no matter which side you're on, although Ryzen is immune to meltdown & some spectre variants.
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#41
Midland Dog
R0H1TThe only way to do that is to stop patching your OS & stop at CFL, since apparently ICL will have hardware mitigation for spectre/meltdown.
I personally hope that intel and amd reach a gentlemens agreement to keep core counts at a limit on the consumer and hedt platforms, let your architectures fight it out, more ipc and even more clocks exponentially increases multi threaded performance
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#42
RejZoR
Given that most consumer chips run at around that clock, they managed to cram in like 4x as many cores (and 8x threads). Pretty impressive. Even more so considering what Intel had to do to get their 56 core thing up to 5GHz...
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#43
Arjai
I would love one of these to crunch with! 32/64 @ 250W is effing amazing balls!! I'm getting 6/12 with 3 i3's and they're probably around the same Wattage.

:clap:
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#44
jigar2speed
Intel's 28 core CPU @ 5GHZ scored 7334 score but good luck cooling that chip and reaching those number.
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#45
T1beriu
then it follows a 20-core 2960X
28-core 2980X
This won't exist because you can't have symmetrical asymmetrical CCXs.
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#46
londiste
jigar2speedIntel's 28 core CPU @ 5GHZ scored 7334 score but good luck cooling that chip and reaching those number.
Threadripper 2990X is effectively and literally 4x Ryzen 2700X. Frequency/voltage/amperage curve for Pinnacle Ridge is fairly predictible and Gamer's Nexus has a nice table for it. There is some variance for individual chips but from what I have seen, the table seems to be roughly accurate.
www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3290-exponential-ryzen-voltage-frequency-curve

2990X's 250W TDP is probably at 3.4 GHz.
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#47
Parn
4GHz on all 32 cores is very impressive. Yet the 250W TDP is also something that will require exotic cooling methods which average users can't afford.
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#48
Mysteoa
Parn4GHz on all 32 cores is very impressive. Yet the 250W TDP is also something that will require exotic cooling methods which average users can't afford.
If you read the source, they are using CORSAIR H150i PRO for the 4.12ghz overclock.
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#49
Imsochobo
Parn4GHz on all 32 cores is very impressive. Yet the 250W TDP is also something that will require exotic cooling methods which average users can't afford.
A GTX1080TI requires exotic cooling and not anything an average user can afford, nor the 290X, 7970 ghz edition, vega 64, GTX 480 and 580, GTX 780TI,980TI.

They're all the same tdp ballpark, it's not an issue and they don't require large coolers either.

Hell a coffee lake OC'd on AIO cooling is 200W, skl-x pushes 400w+ with most common overclocks.
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#50
ShurikN
Parn4GHz on all 32 cores is very impressive. Yet the 250W TDP is also something that will require exotic cooling methods which average users can't afford.
Average user doesnt know about Threadripper, let alone buys it or worry about cooling. People who buy stuff like this know what they are getting themselves into.
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