Wednesday, August 8th 2018

EA Representative: Game Streaming Is the Future and Simply a Matter of "When"

EA's Executive VP of Strategic Growth Matt Bilbey said in an interview to gamesindustry.biz that he expects game streaming to be an unavoidable fact of our lives, replacing traditional consoles and gaming-specific devices with smartphone-based solutions or Smart TV apps. Matt Bilbey spoke on how scaling bandwidth and latency is paramount to this streaming future, and likely one of the reasons streaming services up to now have struggled for acceptance - and even survival.

"(...) today, that [bandwidth and latency issues] is still a challenge. But I think over the next year to two years, that barrier will drop. Not for everyone, but for a lot of people. Bandwidth capabilities will go up so the business model around streaming a game becomes more viable. If you buy into a streaming solution and the experience is laggy half the time, you're going to stop and not do it again, which is the challenge some of the companies previously had. I think there's now a solution where we can deliver on the promise, and we're working with a lot of the companies who create the server infrastructure, and there are a lot of innovative solutions from a lot of big companies we're working with that will actually allow us to bring this to life."
It all goes back to telemetry, data, and exploration of users' interests and gaming profiles though, and Matt bilbey says that is an integral part of any new investment. trying to bring the investment/profit ratio as high as it can possibly go is the goal of many companies - and EA is certainly not the exception. Matt Bilbey said that being able to collect these telemetry tidbits is paramount to future experiences:
"By having this across our entire catalog, it allows us to curate their experience, to not start offering them trials when they're deep into a single-player mode on something else. So that's a big part of what we talk about internally as our 'player network.' It's the value proposition we can use to ensure they get the most value out of the game they're playing."
And your next-gen games might be made entirely by algorithm, much like Netflix's approach:
There's definitely an opportunity we have there that we don't talk about, about how we could create your entertainment experience. I'd like to think as well there's insight we will get out of how those people are playing games, when they're playing, how long they're playing for, who they're playing with, that will arguably write the concept for your next game.
That last part brings back memories of this one little piece that used images of Bioware's upcoming Anthem video game...
Source: Gamesindustry.biz
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79 Comments on EA Representative: Game Streaming Is the Future and Simply a Matter of "When"

#26
Octopuss
How is this even supposed to work? Each texture being downloaded from a server on demand or what?

And what kind of alternative universe is that imbecile living in? Not everyone has gigabit fibre optic connection at home and most people never will.
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#27
Manu_PT
londisteIf it is made user-friendly and slick enough - a lot of people.

Input lag has not been light years for a long while now. 100-150 ms or lower is not that much. Most console games are designed with input lag in that range, faster shooters excluded. I have tried pretty much every game steaming solution there is (from Onlive back when it came out to Geforce Now only recently) and while I do not see these as solutions for myself (not that I am too hardcore but I've just been playing for too long) but it will definitely be a strong contender to normies and console crowd.

EA or not, the guy is not wrong.
100ms is A LOT of input lag. I can even notice 20ms of input lag (usual on 4k TVs), nevermind 100ms.

I can´t see how streaming will be the only norm about videogames. Sure a lot of genres can be played with it, I totally agree, but A LOT of other genres won´t simply offer a good experience.

I won´t even touch on the first person shooters department. Playing fighting games, sports games like FIFA, 2d platfrom based reaction games, racing games, with lag? No way, it will not be a good experience.

And this is one of those things that we can´t say that will get better with time. You can´t beat science and maths. If you play games from some server, it will ALWAYS and forever have input lag. Unless it is streamed 1 meter away from you, inside your house.
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#28
Paganstomp
My future prediction.

Stream all you want for $300.00 a month!

*Cost will be slightly lower with our 90GB Data Plan.
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#29
dorsetknob
"YOUR RMA REQUEST IS CON-REFUSED"
PaganstompMy future prediction.

Stream all you want for $300.00 a month!
:p add a few zero's to that and maybe your in the Ball park
Some Have to and all ready pay that :eek:
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#30
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
windwhirlHah! After Trump's administration decided to destroy net neutrality, forget about game streaming being common in, say, a couple of years. The biggest ISPs are probably going to strike deals with the streaming services to provide bandwidth and prioritization.
Do you realize we had net neutrality for the blink of an eye? It never had a chance to start where I live. And we have had blazing fast speeds without download limits for years prior. Not having it again will mean more of the great service we always had.
windwhirlAnd honestly, not owning a game I paid for? Screw EA and everyone else that tries that.
Other than a very old game like you mentioned, or any game off GOG, you don’t own your games anyway. You pay for the use of the game as long as the publisher says you can. So, nothing would change with EA, since no one owns their games now.
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#31
StrayKAT
I can't actually think of ONE time any sort of prediction on technology in gaming every amounted to much of anything. Not once! The things that create buzz in games are simply the games.. the content of them. Not the delivery method. EA would be better off just remembering that. These execs all remind me of that old documentary "Triumph of the Nerds", with the section on Larry Ellison talking about basically conquering the world with Net computers. All of these guys are like wannabe Steve Jobs (who was himself not all that either).. but it's worse to see in gaming. Focus on the damn games!
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#34
R-T-B
eidairaman1Nope.
Pretty much my thoughts.

Even if they solved the latency issues, the lossy video compression would still make me want to kick my monitors face in.
FordGT90ConceptOnce EA pays for my internet, sure.
If EA was paying for my internet, I wouldn't trust it. Not for a second. I would probably set up a TOR exit node on it just to link EA to terrorism or kiddy porn, really.
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#35
Minus Infinity
I echo everyone's sentiment. What a load of self-serving horse crap. The sooner these clowns go bankrupt the better.
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#36
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
R-T-BPretty much my thoughts.

Even if they solved the latency issues, the lossy video compression would still make me want to kick my monitors face in.
Don't forget the ongoing subscription fees.
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#37
ianatikin
The Fall of EA Is the Future and Simply a Matter of "When"
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#38
Papahyooie
So basically we want to stymie development and innovation in games and graphics so that they fit into a compressed/low enough quality to be piped over what is a woefully inadequate delivery method?

Thanks, EA. You obviously really care about games.
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#39
windwhirl
R-T-BPretty much my thoughts.

Even if they solved the latency issues, the lossy video compression would still make me want to kick my monitors face in.
I though punching stuff, not kicking, was your thing...
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#40
INSTG8R
Vanguard Beta Tester
Let’s see too much of the world has limited speeds and data caps and the price of storage media gets cheaper, faster, while getting larger and larger. I don’t see this happening anytime soon or with any real success. Even with my 500/500 fibre I still can’t/won’t support this system/idea.
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#41
Dr_b_
About 5 years or so ago, i had commented on an article on benchmarkreviews by Olin Coles about the future of game streaming. Olin argued that it was inevitable and would be mainstream in a few years, replacing the model we have now, which is local compute. I called it out for being ridiculous at the time, and it still is, but in a strange twist Olin proceeded to lambast me by saying i didnt have the bona fides to nay say the idea of streaming gaming.

Well, here we are, 5+ years de post facto, and game streaming is still shit, and the same limitations apply. You aren't going to have game streaming anytime soon, and its not a matter of when not if, its a matter of it being a really niche product that so far has really not been profitable.

Granted tech changes, so maybe that thing which hasnt been invented yet makes it work, but right now, not only do people not want this GaaS(hit), (gaming as a service), its got technological problems. Streaming yet another thing on the internet either with mobile or from your home ISP?
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#42
hat
Enthusiast
Nope. Downloading and running a game from local storage, I'm fine with... but streaming it? Nah.
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#43
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Remember, they said "virtual reality is the future" in the 1990s. "When" is still not today, two decades later. EA can think what it wants but reality is something else entirely.
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#44
Axaion
While hate is a strong word to use against someone you dont really know, i can say i kinda hate this guy, if not only for the sole reason he could even say this with a straight face.

Also, EA - lol.
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#45
R-T-B
windwhirlI though punching stuff, not kicking, was your thing...
I make do with what's nearest to my the device. Since I went armchair, that would be my feet.
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#46
INSTG8R
Vanguard Beta Tester
Not really on topic but still EA...
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#47
holyprof
EA can think all they want. My steam library contains 76 games and i have only played 12 of them. I'm set up for the rest of my life. Also there are the free and awesome games like League of Legends, Heros of the Storm, Hearthstone and many others. Bye EA, you won't be seeing any of my money - not today and not in the future.
Also, I live in a small (by US standards) town, but it's a district capital and has a busy international airport. My internet connection is 12 years old 16Mbps ADSL connection. My ISP told me "that's the best we can do now". I can only imagine what happens in peripheral and rural zones. How the hell can i stream games? WTF EA?
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#48
StrayKAT
AxaionWhile hate is a strong word to use against someone you dont really know, i can say i kinda hate this guy, if not only for the sole reason he could even say this with a straight face.

Also, EA - lol.
That's how I felt in my first post. I don't say it lightly, but it really just rubs me the wrong way.
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#49
natr0n
With comcast internet this will never ever take off efficiently in the U.S. .

"Hey bro come check out this game looks crazy...ah shit net went out again"
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#50
Prima.Vera
As always, anything and everything that comes from EA it's just pure poison and garbage. I'm trying to stay away from this junk company as much as possible.
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