Wednesday, August 22nd 2018
AMD 7nm "Vega" by December, Not a Die-shrink of "Vega 10"
AMD is reportedly prioritizing its first 7 nanometer silicon fabrication allocations to two chips - "Rome," and "Vega 20." Rome, as you'll recall, is the first CPU die based on the company's "Zen 2" architecture, which will build the company's 2nd generation EPYC enterprise processors. "Vega 20," on the other hand, could be the world's first 7 nm GPU.
"Vega 20" is not a mere die-shrink of the "Vega 10" GPU die to the 7 nm node. For starters, it is flanked by four HBM2 memory stacks, confirming it will feature a wider memory interface, and support for up to 32 GB of memory. AMD at its Computex event confirmed that "Vega 20" will build Radeon Instinct and Radeon Pro graphics cards, and that it has no plans to bring it to the client-segment. That distinction will be reserved for "Navi," which could only debut in 2019, if not later.
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"Vega 20" is not a mere die-shrink of the "Vega 10" GPU die to the 7 nm node. For starters, it is flanked by four HBM2 memory stacks, confirming it will feature a wider memory interface, and support for up to 32 GB of memory. AMD at its Computex event confirmed that "Vega 20" will build Radeon Instinct and Radeon Pro graphics cards, and that it has no plans to bring it to the client-segment. That distinction will be reserved for "Navi," which could only debut in 2019, if not later.
194 Comments on AMD 7nm "Vega" by December, Not a Die-shrink of "Vega 10"
(yes i know it'll be 2019, but the 20x0 cards will still be over $1.5K here in aus by then)
enthusiast gamers are at the very end of their scope,forget they're gonna prioritize or innovate in that segment.
AMD sould just sell radeon by this point. They can do really well with GPUs, or CPUs, but not both. Sell Radeon to somebody that can actually produce decent GPUs. Vega was a year late and many watts too high, and is about to get eclipsed by a new generation of GPUs from nvidia.
Retail pricing for AIB cards isn't looking much better either....
You reap what you sow, dear consumer. Anyone can ask whatever amount of money they want but that price becomes common place only when it is accepted on a large scale. Nvidia keeps rising the bar, are people going to accept it ? That's all it comes down to.
I dont think this is even up to consumers really. We get the worst chips on each wafer!
Special features dont matter unless you can get most developers to use it, and only nvidia's gameworks has seen such success. For 5 years "special features" were going to be AMD's ace up their sleeve, and for 5 years Nvidia has dominated them on sales. AMD needs to focus less on special features they cant support and more on producing fast GPUs.Performance in one application =? performance overall. You could just as easily point to nvidia's gaming performance and CUDA performance in pro applications and say "You can doubt it, but that shows how they really stack up".
Regardless of how good VEGA is (which is highly subjective based on application), VEGA was over a year late to market, power hungry, with very little OC capability, was hampered by minuscule availability and HBM production. The result was Nvidia capturing a huge portion of the market using now 2 year old GPUs because AMD never bothered to show up. You cant just leave an entire generation behind and expect people to continue supporting your brand.
AMD now considering leaving a second generation to nvidia does two things. First, it creates an even stronger idea that AMD simply cant compete on the high end, reinforcing the "mindshare" that many AMD fans are convinced exists. in reality, it is people being uncertain about investing in a brand when said brand cannot consistently show UP to compete. The second is that it gives nvidia a captive market to milk for $$$, which helps keep them economically ahead of AMD, able to make bigger investments in development of new tech, and perpetually keeping AMD in a position of catching up.