They're features, not bugs.

The graphics probably will not warrant the minimum specs.

Huh?
I see 6600K as min
4790 as recommended

no 4790K mentioned anywhere

Also, extremely weird choice of CPUs, seems like a healthy mix of not knowing many things.

dj-electricHuh?
I see 6600K as min
4790 as recommended

no 4790K mentioned anywhere

Also, the minimum Intel CPU is 4-thread, not 8.

chfrcoghlanAlso, the minimum Intel CPU is 4-thread, not 8.

So is the 1300X.

Didnt we have a discussion already about this?

Beta was bad anyway.... not buying this one.

require 8... is optimized for 4 ... can utilize 2 MAX.
same old, same old...

dj-electricHuh?
I see 6600K as min
4790 as recommended

no 4790K mentioned anywhere

Also, extremely weird choice of CPUs, seems like a healthy mix of not knowing many things.

That's cause specs keep changing. Just a few days ago there was a discussion here on TPU (about CPU upgrade for FO76), and the OP posted the older spec revision which absurdly listed i7-4790 as both min and recommended spec. This re-edited spec w/ 6600K makes even less sense.

Ok so it will likely run on Core 2 Quad, Phenom X4, 1-8 Gen I5, Phenom 2 X4, FX 41**/43**.

Then the recommended is FX 81**/83**, Core I7, Ryzen.

Once again, this title is total BS.
The requirements say nothing about requirements for threads, not every aspect of those CPUs listed are requirements! The performance is the requirement, not the specs of the CPU!
By this logic, not only 8 threads, but also 3.5 GHz, 8 MB L3 cache, and I guess even a 65W TDP would be considered requirements.

And technically, the requirements list disk space, so obviously this game will never work on SSDs!

You know, it is allowed to think!

They're just going to use the same engine and force-feed some net-code to it. They even admitted right off the bat they're gonna have bugs and other issues. A BGS game with bugs?! OH, REALLY!? Wow. Since when?

And they're gonna have players solve and find them... Again. Did they fire all of their testing staff? WTF. Make you pay full price for something re-hashed, peddling stripped down Fallout 4 which will have even less features. Just perfect for money making! Putting least amount of effort while maximizing profits. So what is new here?

I'm calling it, TES 6 will come on the same engine, and the cycle continues.

My favorite game series is being run into the ground, one step at a time. If it was in the ground then it's six-feet under now.

How come Ubi***t is able to actually fix almost everything what was wrong with their past games. Call of Duty is actually becoming good!? Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria.

Bethsoft isn't on the good graces of gamers anymore (they weren't with the enthusiast crowd and modders since days of Oblivion), I think they joined EA and Konami in full (only rightful for them as they were the pioneers of modern DLC). Zenimax that owns both Bethesda and by extension BGS, couldn't care less and they're making tons of cash. Might as well keep the track record straight, they're not going to do a 180 and please everyone. Their business practices get under my skin. (Brainwashing/convincing gaming press at events are we now? So you can get PR?) Just how many fools are going to buy this at full price or even pre-order it for those sweet, sweet pre-order bonuses.

Rant over.

And guys, I think we need another video game crash. And let new people into the industry. Sad thing is they're really good at preventing something like this and game companies know exactly what they are doing, always feigning ignorance when something isn't right.

So, that intel logo on the article, does it mean that the game is only for intel cpu owners?

HimymCZerequire 8... is optimized for 4 ... can utilize 2 MAX.
same old, same old...

Just because you see low % usage in your monitoring software doesn't mean the cores aren't used. FO4 also likes to use more than two. The vast majority still wants those extra threads, because otherwise the work is done on the MAIN thread CPU core, which directly impacts performance.

Its like RAM, if you don't have enough, prepare to enjoy stutter.

Unfortunately you will still have a stutterfest in this specific example. FO4 never ran perfectly either, regardless of the hardware you tossed at it. 76 will be worse because netcode.

FWIW I think these specs are quite realistic and the AMD-Intel CPU comparisons check out. At least they got one thing right, I guess :D

EntropyZAnd guys, I think we need another video game crash. And let new people into the industry. Sad thing is they're really good at preventing something like this and game companies know exactly what they are doing, always feigning ignorance when something isn't right.

We don't need a crash. We need to keep making noise about things we don't like. The reason those Ubisoft games improved is because we made noise. They even have MTX in there now that you can safely ignore without 'feeling' an impact on gameplay, in most of their games, and the rest has made the grind integral to gameplay so P2W isn't happening anyway. That alone is a direct result of players voicing their opinions.

Similarly, we are very good as a community to destroy releases by rapidly dwindling player counts, and there is a huge snowball effect in there as well: once the shit hits the fan, and social media, it can easily explode and we leave a wasteland behind, moving elsewhere en masse. The games that are improving are those where a publisher feels they can still reel those players back in. The key to doing that: meaty content updates (look at Warframe for a good example), and creating a soft landing for returning players. No amount of PR can replace actual content, and good gameplay. The merit of that will never go away.

The gaming biz is so much more dynamic right now, and there are so many (independent) developers around, its super healthy and as a gamer you have every opportunity to support devs and publishers you like.

Vayra86Just because you see low % usage in your monitoring software doesn't mean the cores aren't used. FO4 also likes to use more than two. The vast majority still wants those extra threads, because otherwise the work is done on the MAIN thread CPU core, which directly impacts performance.

Yeah, thread "utilization" in the OS is not actual load on cores.

The main goal of more cores for gaming is as you imply; let the heavier threads work undisturbed. And it mostly affects stutter, not average frame rate so much. But it only truly helps if you can add more cores. SMT/HT only lets a core switch between two threads, the total throughput is never above a fully saturated thread.

SMT actually hurts gaming more than it helps, because gaming is heavily synchronous tasks. The only "exception" would be for an extremely underpowered system where a game needs many more threads than the cores provided, and it may help a little, but only because it will mitigate some of the OS overhead, but the game will still be a Stutterfest™ and either unplayable or borderline unplayable.

Vayra86Its like RAM, if you don't have enough, prepare to enjoy stutter.

If you don't have enough RAM, swappnig will save you from hanging or crashing, but performance will still be awful.
If you don't have enough cores, SMT may help marginally in edge cases, but performance will still be bad, and sometimes even worse than without SMT.

HimymCZerequire 8... is optimized for 4 ... can utilize 2 MAX.
same old, same old...

Nailed it

EntropyZCall of Duty is actually becoming good!?

Whoa whoa, I don't think we need to go that far. :roll:

i have 7920X + GTX 1070.. SO PASS!!!

DR4G00NWhoa whoa, I don't think we need to go that far. :roll:

Don't worry, even if it does, it only takes them a year to screw everything up with a sequel. After all, those old servers must be killed to boost sales.