Monday, July 1st 2019

PSA: No Ryzen 3000 Pre-orders Today (1st July), Spare Your F5 Key

AMD's 3rd generation Ryzen desktop processors were rumored to open to pre-orders today, so you could have your swanky new CPU upgrade in place by 7/7. It turns out, that's not the case. AMD in a statement to TechPowerUp, confirmed that there won't be any pre-orders opened by retailers today (1st July), and there is no information of any such pre-orders date. Customers will likely have to wait until the 7th to pick their PIB form their friendly neighbourhood PC hardware store, or order one online. The statement from AMD in German language translates as follows:
We haven't announced any pre-order plans - global launch is on 7/7.
AMD is launching five new processor SKUs this July, including the 12-core/24-thread Ryzen 9 3900X, the 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7 3800X and 3700X, and the 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5 3600X and 3600. Prices over previous-generation products remain flat wherever applicable. The 3700X is being launched at the same $329.99 MSRP as the 2700X, the 3600X at a slightly higher $249.99 compared to the $239.99 the 2600X launched at; and the 3600 aims to be the sub-$200 king at the same $199.99 price as the 2600. The 3800X is being launched as a premium 8-core option at $399.99, and the 3900X can be yours for $499.99. We expect most online retailers to mark these prices up by 5-10 percent as they normally do.
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54 Comments on PSA: No Ryzen 3000 Pre-orders Today (1st July), Spare Your F5 Key

#26
shmuck
Vayra86Supporting developers does not happen through a pre-order. Funding for a project is always secured (even with kickstarters!) long before a project is finished.
For big publisher/developer houses maybe. Not necessarily for indie devs.
efikkanDon't waste your precious money on inflated launch prices. Wait until the prices have settled down.
I'm too eager to retire my i5-4570, and saving some measly 50 euros by delaying the purchase for who knows how many months is hardly worth it for me.
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#27
Vayra86
shmuckFor big publisher/developer houses maybe. Not necessarily for indie devs.
No? Where did you get that info then? Spoke to them? You go ahead and point me to ONE dev studio that decides on the scope of his project while funds are still uncertain.

I know there's one ;) What state was that game in, again? Oh yeah...
robertsspaceindustries.com/

That should tell you enough. Even indie devs have a scope and a project that is clearly defined before they start work and secure the necessary funds. It is that scope and plan that they present and secure the funding with. And note - EVEN Roberts had a roadmap, a scope and a project plan to secure his funding and the investors - both crowdfunding and corporate - but decided to 'keep adding stretch goals'.

Anyway. Ryzen :D
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#29
efikkan
shmuckI'm too eager to retire my i5-4570, and saving some measly 50 euros by delaying the purchase for who knows how many months is hardly worth it for me.
I didn't say wait months. The extreme prices are usually gone within days or weeks, and often it's not every store who keeps doing it.

If you're buying a new motherboard, you should be waiting for good reviews anyway.
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#30
HwGeek
WavetrexAMD just released video that Ryzen 3000 can auto-overclock to the limits of the motherboard it's matched to.


"Precision Boost Overdrive with Auto-Overclock"

Wow. This generation will demolish everything in it's path !
I sad month ago that AMD will use new PBO that will boost the max boost clocks, So happy to be right :).
Did you noticed that with this new 1 click auto PBO OCing in-chip AMD just made the ~1.5GB Intel® Performance Maximizer to be laughable? OMG LOL!.
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#31
shmuck
Vayra86No? Where did you get that info then? Spoke to them? You go ahead and point me to ONE dev studio that decides on the scope of his project while funds are still uncertain.

I know there's one ;) What state was that game in, again? Oh yeah...
robertsspaceindustries.com/

That should tell you enough. Even indie devs have a scope and a project that is clearly defined before they start work and secure the necessary funds. It is that scope and plan that they present and secure the funding with.
So there's never been game developers going bankrupt before they've shipped their product?
Oh, here's your link
(7:20) Watched it just today...
efikkanI didn't say wait months. The extreme prices are usually gone within days or weeks, and often it's not every store who keeps doing it.
Perhaps. Or they might decide not to slash the prices at all.
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#32
Shatun_Bear
WavetrexAMD just released video that Ryzen 3000 can auto-overclock to the limits of the motherboard it's matched to.


"Precision Boost Overdrive with Auto-Overclock"

Wow. This generation will demolish everything in it's path !
If you pair the CPU with a beefy AIO you'll see some nice single-core boosts up to around 4.7Ghz or 4.8Ghz dsre I say, if you're lucky.
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#33
Vayra86
shmuckSo there's never been game developers going bankrupt before they've shipped their product?
Oh, here's your link
(7:20) Watched it just today...


Perhaps. Or they might decide not to slash the prices at all.
An encouraging thought. Pre ordering from a dev that may go bankrupt, so we better support them enough or else :D

However that is still a little bit different isn't it. An early access and a pre order aren't the same - more often than not, Early access also presents a discount while pre orders do not. Early access also doesn't guarantee the full scope of the game yet. You could say early access is a kickstarter / crowdfunding much more than a pre order. A pre order is effectively a sale agreement - a contract - while EA is not.

Early access also does not apply for refunds. Its money gone -an investment, like crowdfunding, that may or may not return a game/product.

Devil's in the details.
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#34
W1zzard
lexluthermiesterIs W1z the one doing it? I thought it might be @crazyeyesreaper or @btarunr. Interesting.
I've been doing all CPU reviews since a while. Got a ton of new benchmarks this time
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#35
xkm1948
W1zzardI've been doing all CPU reviews since a while. Got a ton of new benchmarks this time
Sweet!

Any potential machine learning or similar productivity benchmark suite built in this time?
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#36
lexluthermiester
xkm1948Sweet!

Any potential machine learning or similar productivity benchmark suite built in this time?
He likely can't say yet, info embargo.
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#37
Joss
Reviews will come out next Sunday, right? Anyone know what hour?
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#38
W1zzard
xkm1948Sweet!

Any potential machine learning or similar productivity benchmark suite built in this time?
Even the previous suite had Tensorflow, Office and Photoshop
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#39
EarthDog
Shatun_BearJim, where is this 5Ghz Ryzen 3000 CPU, I'd like to pre-order one of those?
got ln2?
WavetrexAMD just released video that Ryzen 3000 can auto-overclock to the limits of the motherboard it's matched to.


"Precision Boost Overdrive with Auto-Overclock"

Wow. This generation will demolish everything in it's path !
And also accomplishes being a snoozefest for the overclocker. :(
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#40
timta2
Th3pwn3rAmazon does same day Sunday shipping, I did an order yesterday and received it .

So actual day I can purchase and install this is the 7th? I may be picking up a setup for another rig in my house.
Unless things have changed, same day and Sunday shipping are in limited areas only.
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#41
Wavetrex
EarthDogAnd also accomplishes being a snoozefest for the overclocker. :(
No, what actually accomplishes is to open up the idea of overclocking to a wider audience. People who usually don't do this because they are not knowledgeable enough to tinker with settings in the bios and test and so on.
Real overclockers will still do manual overclocking to test the limits of their builds, but the novices will certainly like having "1-button-push" increase in performance (something that you don't exactly get in any other CPU before Zen 2)
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#42
TheLostSwede
News Editor
Shatun_BearJim, where is this 5Ghz Ryzen 3000 CPU, I'd like to pre-order one of those?
Hi Bob, unfortunately it would seem AMD showed off the 5GHz parts to the motherboard makers, as I guess they expected it to leak, to help build the hype train, then they decided to launch something entirely different. I can only base my comments here on information I have at hand. There very much was a 5GHz part making the rounds in Taipei, but you can chose to believe that or not.
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#43
HwGeek
Maybe the 5Ghz is saved for 50th Anniversary? IMO 5.0GHZ looks like 50 :).
Also IMO the Ryzen 9 3950X will launch at 9/9 = Monday as the 9 is for Ryzen 9.
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#44
Tomgang
Arh dam. Why do i first see this now. I al ready broke F5 key on 3 keyboards up til now:p

Joke a side. I am i no hurry to pre order now as i am waiting for ryzen 9 3950X and that is first set to release some time in september and i also want to se a few reviews before i order any thing.
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#45
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
TheLostSwedeI thought he only reviews graphics cards and SSDs...
He’s done a pretty good number of CPU reviews. I stopped counting after the last 24 processor reviews.
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#46
EarthDog
WavetrexNo, what actually accomplishes is to open up the idea of overclocking to a wider audience. People who usually don't do this because they are not knowledgeable enough to tinker with settings in the bios and test and so on.
Real overclockers will still do manual overclocking to test the limits of their builds, but the novices will certainly like having "1-button-push" increase in performance (something that you don't exactly get in any other CPU before Zen 2)
braaaaaaaa.....its boost, really, not overclocking. ;)

Overclocking, to me, implies, manual work and goes beyond boost from the factory. The difference here is simply the motherboard. Some who use this feature wont do a thing if the mobo isnt up to the task.

Call me an overclocking purist. :p
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#47
Mephis
EarthDogbraaaaaaaa.....its boost, really, not overclocking. ;)

Overclocking, to me, implies, manual work and goes beyond boost from the factory. The difference here is simply the motherboard. Some who use this feature wont do a thing if the mobo isnt up to the task.

Call me an overclocking purist. :p
Actually, it is the very definition of overclocking. Running hardware at a higher clock rate than what was advertised and guaranteed by the manufacturer. Whether you do it by clicking one button, or by setting a single setting in the bios or go all the way and tweak voltages doesn't matter. It is still overclocking.
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#48
EarthDog
MephisActually, it is the very definition of overclocking. Running hardware at a higher clock rate than what was advertised and guaranteed by the manufacturer. Whether you do it by clicking one button, or by setting a single setting in the bios or go all the way and tweak voltages doesn't matter. It is still overclocking.
Is it? Is turbo and boost overclocking (both companies list that rating)? It literally takes 2 more variables to add to its boost algo's it seems. Correct me if I am wrong. This does seem to take it a bit beyond, but again, its a boost algo with more variables. I don't call that (manually) overclocking.

That doesn't take away from anything I said, however. It still makes it dudsville for the overclocker if it takes it to the limit automatically. Great for noobs though. Yipee.
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#49
lexluthermiester
MephisActually, it is the very definition of overclocking. Running hardware at a higher clock rate than what was advertised and guaranteed by the manufacturer. Whether you do it by clicking one button, or by setting a single setting in the bios or go all the way and tweak voltages doesn't matter. It is still overclocking.
You just contradicted yourself and made his point for him at the same time. Boost clocks are set at the factory and are thus factory settings. Anything over that would be overclocking. Boost clocks are not overclocking.
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#50
Nordic
I was seriously considering pre ordering because my motherboard died 3 months ago and I have been waiting for ryzen.
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