Tuesday, August 13th 2019
Caseking Adds Binned Ryzen 3000 CPUs to Its Offerings
Users that don't want to play the silicon lottery game have been using services that offer pre-binned and pre-overclocked chips for a while now. Silicon Lottery is one of the most well known players in this game, but German retailer Caseking is now offering the same for AMD's latest Ryzen 3000 processors. AMD's work on automatic overclocking and boost clocks for their Ryzen chips has rendered manual overclocking almost (read: almost) obsolete, and in some cases it may even be detrimental to the CPU's performance to set a manual overclock that overrides AMD's boost clock algorithm. This is because AMD's boost increases speed on a single core, with subsequent cores being clocked slightly lower according to their capabilities. In effect, this means that manually overclocking all cores to, say, 4.0 GHz can sometimes render lower performance in particular tasks, since the all-core overclock is, by necessity, handicapped by the least-overclockable core.
Caseking's offerings have been pre-overclocked, and are guaranteed to hit stable overclocks at the claimed frequency, thus saving users from getting a "bad" overclocker CPU from AMD. Caseking's offerings have been tested by their own King Mod team and overclocking superstar Roman "der8auer" Hartung, with Prime95 26.6 software being used to test the overclocked chips' stability with a FFT length of 1344 for at least one hour. This practice is backed by a two-year limited warranty on the CPU. Sadly, most CPUs are out of stock at the moment, so keep on checking availability, unless one of the offerings is exactly up your alley.
Sources:
Caseking, via Tom's Hardware
Caseking's offerings have been pre-overclocked, and are guaranteed to hit stable overclocks at the claimed frequency, thus saving users from getting a "bad" overclocker CPU from AMD. Caseking's offerings have been tested by their own King Mod team and overclocking superstar Roman "der8auer" Hartung, with Prime95 26.6 software being used to test the overclocked chips' stability with a FFT length of 1344 for at least one hour. This practice is backed by a two-year limited warranty on the CPU. Sadly, most CPUs are out of stock at the moment, so keep on checking availability, unless one of the offerings is exactly up your alley.
33 Comments on Caseking Adds Binned Ryzen 3000 CPUs to Its Offerings
If they are selling binned ones means silicon lottery odds of getting a good one from them from normal stock is squarely against you.
So you are paying 100 euro for 50 MHz, maybe
You will never notice the difference between 4.25 and 4.3
Worst money you will ever spend
Also Bad bins usually got to resellers.
As of 8/12/19, the top 6% of tested 3900Xs were able to hit 4.20GHz or greater.
I put 100 to one side, I bin the others.
70% of the processors I choose to bin, reach above stock clocks and so I sell those at a premium.
That leaves me 30 CPUs that don't go above stock clocks and so I sell those for a small discount as OEM or "Tray" processors. These chips will almost never actually clock highly.
On the other hand, customers buying a Retail Boxed chip have a 70% chance of getting a CPU that will do higher than stock clocks, as long as all 200 processors originally came from the same batch and have the same variations in overall quality. So are you not gonna walk back that statement you literally just made where you claimed most 3000 series will hit 4.25?
There's a huge difference between bench stable and rock solid and this takes days, sometimes weeks to find out.
My 3600 is somewhat of a "dud", but I partly blame Gigabyte's horrific AX370 BIOS implementation for that. With ~1.4V 4.3GHz Cinebench stable, 4.2GHz anything Gaming, 4.175 GHz video encoding, 4.1GHz Prime stable (under water with 960mm radiators for CPU + a 1080). Therefore, I take any OC claims from random people in the internets with a grain of salt.
If you don't understand that, or if you somehow think anything I just said is "complicated", then frankly you should be embarrassed for yourself.
They then unbox a bunch of them to put into prebuilt rigs with warrantied overclocks, or to bin and sell as guaranteed overclockers.
The CPUs that *fail to meet those standards* are what is then sold later as OEM or "Tray" chips. This is because they cannot be sold as retail chips again once they have been opened and tested, so instead the retailer applies a small discount and just gets them out of the door as "OEM" parts.
I delidded an i3 7350K (going for global ranks with it) and the temps dropped by exactly nothing. Granted it was kicking out such little heat being a dual core, but the temp change surprised me as I’ve typically observed 10c or more across all cores at all times.