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Intel Core i9-9900KS to be Available from October
Intel's panic response to the 3rd generation Ryzen processor series, the Core i9-9900KS, will be generally available in October. The company will extensively market it as the best processor money can buy for gaming, and the specs to support that claim are formidable - 8-core/16-thread, with an all-core Turbo Boost frequency of 5.00 GHz. Intel will also actively publicize the growing clamor against real-world boost frequencies of 3rd gen Ryzen processors falling short of what's advertised, as detailed in the slide below. "5 GHz means 5 GHz" could be a prominent catchphrase of the chip's marketing, highlighting the all-core boost clocks. This chip is based on the existing 14 nm++ "Coffee Lake Refresh" silicon, but is likely its topmost bin.
Intel didn't, however, specify the TDP or pricing of the processor. The TDP is bound to be higher than that of the i9-9900K, as it would take a lot more power to sustain 5.00 GHz across all 8 cores. Intel may also try to retake the $499 price-point. The company may time the launch of this chip to closely follow AMD's flagship Ryzen 9 3950X 16-core/32-thread processor launch, which is due later this month. Intel's performance numbers for the i9-9900KS focus squarely on gaming and applications relevant to home users or PC enthusiasts. The i9-9900KS ships in a similar-looking acrylic case as the i9-9900K, with "Special Edition" branding on the front face. The retail package continues to lack a cooling solution.
Source:
Guru3D
Intel didn't, however, specify the TDP or pricing of the processor. The TDP is bound to be higher than that of the i9-9900K, as it would take a lot more power to sustain 5.00 GHz across all 8 cores. Intel may also try to retake the $499 price-point. The company may time the launch of this chip to closely follow AMD's flagship Ryzen 9 3950X 16-core/32-thread processor launch, which is due later this month. Intel's performance numbers for the i9-9900KS focus squarely on gaming and applications relevant to home users or PC enthusiasts. The i9-9900KS ships in a similar-looking acrylic case as the i9-9900K, with "Special Edition" branding on the front face. The retail package continues to lack a cooling solution.
159 Comments on Intel Core i9-9900KS to be Available from October
With your 1080Ti, there is about ZERO difference even at FHD between a 3900X and a 9900K.
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i am gonna believe it when i see it..
trog
Your comment in a nutshell.
Which makes me wonder, if it is my memory that is faulty, or TPU has changed the results.
I have a Ryzen 1700 in my homeserver, where it does a fine job. Underclocked and undervolted.
I would not use it in my gaming rig tho... That's for damn sure, even 3rd gen Ryzen will be a pretty big downgrade from my 9900K @ 5.2 GHz. Already tested emulation perf on my 1700 and it was terrible, even at 4 GHz, using 2933/CL14 and newest AGESA. Even an old i5-2500K would probably smash it in emulation. Most emulators simply suck with AMD hardware. AMD GPU can work in some but AMD CPU is mostly a no-go. Just like in tons of applications. They are simply optimized for Intel and therefor perform better, sometimes much better.
Ryzen is decent for some workloads, performance is hit or miss tho. With Intel you get solid performance across the board. Especially true for gaming and emulation.
This may or may not change over the years but right now that is the reality.
I'm not sure why some people keeps denying this (most are Ryzen owners tho, soooo I understand ;) Digital Foundry recently tested this in depth and 9700K was faster in min, max and avg. by more than 3-5% ... ALSO cheaper than 3900X.
Yes give it some time and performance MIGHT improve ... personally I want good performance NOW, not in "some years" - I guess we are all different.
We can discuss this all day long, what I'm saying is facts tho. All you have to do is read reviews and watch video's. Look for real world testing and high fps gaming to see the real truth, instead of Cinebench.
Im not saying Ryzen is bad, it's just bad for what I do with my PC: Emulation and high fps gaming. Ryzen is nowhere near the performance my 9900K delivers in these workloads. Regardless of generation, agesa, memory etc.
For my usecase the 9900KS does not make sense. It will run way too hot.
And for AMD Bulldozer, at first i thought it would be a 8-Module CPU. But then reality set in.
When it will be released and benchmarked we will see, how much improvement over the 9900K there really is. And if there is even an noticeable power consumption difference to the 9900K which are overclocked to 5GHz all core. For games which mostly use only one thread, there should not be any difference in performance. I am really curious to see what games can really benefit from the 300Mhz more at all cores :)
@Ias The Ryzen 3k are quite an improvement over the 1 and 2K ones on some areas. And Benchmarking Intel is difficult, since most Mainboard vendors ignore the official intel specs and just boost longer and higher then officially specified. (Just a fact, with advantages and disadvantages). And Intels architecture hasn't changed much over the years, which make a optimisation quite usefull. AMD is a new Architecture, and programmers have still get used to it.
Oh, do you by any chance know, why the 9900K is falling behind a 2700X when you game and stream? Both have 8 cores. Which makes it kind of a mystery to me. It just does not make sense.
My 9900K at 5.2 GHz (no AVX offset) peaks at 50C in gaming using custom water, 8 year old head and low ppi rads .. Same head that I used on my 2600K back in the days, for 4.8 GHz..
Performance is clearly improved compared to stock (watch any review that tests 9900K stock vs 5 GHz and you'll see the same).
Games don't just use one thread, lol?
9900K already beats 3900X in most real world testing and 9900KS will beat it even more
Anyone that has experience with high fps gaming and emulation software knows what I'm talking about
Good job intel, getting caught with your pants down yet again.