eidairaman1I believe the pricing on the 5500 series will be reduced.

still expensive here hehe, somehow nvidia having btter pricetag than amd, maybe becouse amd is more popular in my country, so the price is quite strange here

potato580+still expensive here hehe, somehow nvidia having btter pricetag than amd, maybe becouse amd is more popular in my country, so the price is quite strange here

Vendor price fixing.

potato580+still expensive here hehe, somehow nvidia having btter pricetag than amd, maybe becouse amd is more popular in my country, so the price is quite strange here

It's almost reverse here. Before R9 300 series AMD/ATI were the budget/mainstream king here. Now Nvidia is more popular. There's more Nvidia-only brands. While Sapphire and XFX are brought infrequently and sometimes out-of-stock for months.

So Nvidia is usually cheaper. Not to mention some retailer only bring Nvidia models of the "big 3" aib. So no MSI AMD or no gigabyte AMD.

KhonjelIt's almost reverse here. Before R9 300 series AMD/ATI were the budget/mainstream king here. Now Nvidia is more popular. There's more Nvidia-only brands. While Sapphire and XFX are brought infrequently and sometimes out-of-stock for months.

So Nvidia is usually cheaper. Not to mention some retailer only bring Nvidia models of the "big 3" aib. So no MSI AMD or no gigabyte AMD.

im waiting for amd strikeback, maybe rx5800 should change the market price, simply nvidia still on top becouse of highend product, sadly its quite slower from amd this year, not to mentioned best card like radeon 7 that amd offer, but its overpriced, 2070super/2080 cheaper than radeon 7 here:D

damricThis card interests me. I want a good card <$250 with enough bandwidth for some moderate 4k gaming. My RX570 just gets overwhelmed in many titles...but I'll be damned if I shell out $300 for an RX5700.

No such card exists.

You guys have tested on your 4k rigs?

We pretty much just play tomb raider, mortal combat 11, and all the recent lego titles on our 60Hz 4k samsung tv. All of them run descently with the detail settings turned up with AA off on the RX 570 4GB except the tomb raider games which we turn down to medium to stay above 45 FPS.

I would imagine moving up from this old $120 card to something ~$250 would surely improve performance, no?

Most of AAA games cannot play in 4K not even with 200$ 8GB card. I understand that some of them could play with settings turned down and some users do so. This 5600 would be a 1440p card for now and a 1080p for the next 3-4 years. A sub-200$ card is for 1080p really, like the RX580 I have. Always I’m talking for high-ultra settings.
Its personal preference if you like. There is no point to me to play a AAA game with medium settings.

KhonjelPeople will still buy 1660 Super just like they're buying RTX 2060s, 2060 Supers.

Yeah, but you are forgetting that AMD cards lacks RT, while Green has 2000 series cards with RT and also that AMD still has no competitor for 2080Ti and also 1660 is a 7 years old card. Clearly, buying slower 1660s over faster AMD 5600XT sorta makes sense to certain people.

medi01Yeah, but you are forgetting that AMD cards lacks RT, while Green has 2000 series cards with RT and also that AMD still has no competitor for 2080Ti and also 1660 is a 7 years old card. Clearly, buying slower 1660s over faster AMD 5600XT sorta makes sense to certain people.

GTX 1660 is Turing based, released in 2019...

I will only look at an AMD card again once they fix their damn multi-monitor power consumption.

Yes it's a small thing, but that's kinda the point. It's been a problem for years, people have been complaining about it for years, nothing has been done. If they aren't willing - or able - to get the small things right, why should I have confidence that they'll be able to get the big ones right?

Attention to detail matters. Polish matters. AMD needs to learn this.

Well, AMD/RGT has made just two Navi 7nm chips to cover quite a chuck of the profitable bulk for graphics along with selling to Apple, other OEM's and consoles (probably a different chip(s). They're able to provide competent competitors to the Nvidia line, (consider 4 chips (TU104, TU106, TU116, TU117 cover the same market) uses in providing some 14 offerings from $150-500. AMD/RGT pricing from $170-400 with 6 models... And sure Nvidia has more options and Ray-Tracing, I'm not saying Nvidia is doing it wrong they're taking full advantage of their bigger market share and easy availability in using the 12nm process. AMD/RGT has/had to "shoe-horn" these 7nm graphic chips into what they have to make the priority of their CPU's and probable now console production. Sure their dependence to make a viable graphics lineup is because of using 7nm, but they always knew they wouldn't have the luxury of multiple 7nm products for graphics, and they had make every chip a home to maintain a acceptable pricing. AMD/RGT been holding "bidding their time" binning chips to get to this point. I think when the next release/re-spin/rename, AMD/RGT they'll bring a chip above the Navi 10 and then move all various product down the stack. Not sure how that will work for them but they're saving engineering/money in this approach, and that helps RGT stay relevant considering the level of market share and viability they're competing against.

medi01Yeah, but you are forgetting that AMD cards lacks RT, while Green has 2000 series cards with RT and also that AMD still has no competitor for 2080Ti and also 1660 is a 7 years old card. Clearly, buying slower 1660s over faster AMD 5600XT sorta makes sense to certain people.

I really don't understand whta you're trying to convey. But I'll explain why I bought a RTX 2060.

It was on sale. Rare for my country and on top of that a very rare that newly released GTX 1660 series wasn't on sale. So it was same price as 1660 Ti.
RX 5700 and XT were available but it was pricier than on-sale RTX cards and (I'm still mad about it) it was reference blower card with after-marke models slated for another month and a half.

I looked at performance and value.

If anybody bought first gen RTX cards to comfortably play "the future is ray tracing" games I laud them for their stupidity.

I can understand legit reasons like work/machine learning related purchase of Nvidia over AMD. But I won't understand choosing 2060 Super over 5700 XT and 2060 and 1660 Ti over 5700 if you're only gaming.

But yes, being non-competitive on the top end is basically killing AMD. It doesn't matterthat it's only a small market. Halo products help drive the sales of lower end products.

I'm interested in RX 5600 XT but I would wait until the pricing is right. I intend to stay playing on 1080p only and my current card is RX580 Nitro+, which is ok for 1080p in most cases and I use RTSS to cap my FPS to 58. But I'm playing the Outer Worlds on Ultra and on some scenes FPS drops to like 30s though. If I wanna upgrade and stay on the red camp (which I have for the last 10 years), the next reasonable card is RX 5600 XT (probably with temps and noise too).

P.S. My RX580 Nitro+ behaves strangely (maybe faulty fan?), whenever the GPU is above 64C-ish, the fans would directly jump to run 100% and might stay there for 5-10 mins even though the temp drops back to 40s afterwards. So currently I have to set an aggressive fan curve and undervolt my card to make sure the GPU temp stays below 64. The fans have to run 2100-2200rpm when under load and are a bit noisy to me.

The pricing really isn't all that bad. I mean we would all love cheaper, but if it has good VRM etc. I think that's worth an extra cash/money well spent.

I recall paying about $200 ish for an HD4850 back in the day, and it had 0.5GB of ram. Fast forward over 11 years, tack on inflation and 3.5GB of extra ram, and it's not really that bad.

I seen 5500XT as low as $210 CND, but cheapest seems to be about $240 cnd now (4GB models of course).

With the new media engine, I think it woud be a decent card for an HTPC also, that would be what I would use it for.

Maybe once the polaris cards are cleared out prices may come down a bit.

As to pricing of the RX 5500 XT... From the AMD/RGT and their AIB's P.O.V. as it's darn close a RX 590 8Gb (in fancy AIB trim) that originally listed at $280 (which was way stupid) or a RX 580 that showed @ $230 which at the time April 2017 wasn't that bad. The RX 580 was pretty much instantly sky-rocketed due the mining and gamers couldn't touch it, while the RX 590 came in pretty much the apex of mining so AMD/RGT priced it for the time.

Being a the RX 5500 XT has 4Gb of GDDR6 AMD/RGT content in the price today where you get (ever slightly above) RX 580 8Gb performance for $170, while a 8Gb akin to the RX 590 at $200+. Now I've made it know that I thought such pricing probably not aggressive enough to truly effect the market... That said AMD/RGT "isn't a charity" and as they are presenting viable competition they don't need to give they're products away. While on that note AMD/RGT can probably maintain the pipeline of these 7mn offerings for the time being, so they don't project having an over-abundance and we probably won't see to much erosion from such MSRP's. I'd see pricing settling in after the initial first run and as the newness wears off AIB's/E-tailers will see a need to adjust.

As much a people say AMD/RGT should drop price, on the other side of the coin is Nvidia going to be aggressive with a 12nm part they can probably churn-out like crazy, and we start seeing the GTX 1650 Super or even GTX 1660 6Gb GDDR5 parts really come to their own in upsetting the Navi 14's positioning?