Monday, March 9th 2020
AMD Radeon RX 590 GME is a Dressed Up RX 580: No more 12nm, Lower Performance
When AMD pushed out the Radeon RX 590 in late-2018, its key spec was that the "Polaris 20" die had been ported to GlobalFoundries 12LPP (12 nm) silicon fabrication node, yielding headroom to dial up clock speeds over the 14 nm RX 580. The underlying silicon was labeled "Polaris 30" as it was the second major version of the "Polaris 10" die. NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 16-series beat the RX 590 both in performance and price, with even the GTX 1650 Super performing on-par, and the GTX 1660 beating it. It turns out that AMD has a lot of unsold 14 nm "Polaris 20" inventory to go around, and it wants to release them out as the new RX 590 GME.
An Expreview review of an XFX-branded RX 590 GME confirms that the the chip is indeed based on the "Polaris 20 XTR" silicon which is built on the 14 nm process. The card has GPU clock speeds that appear similar to reference clock speeds of the RX 590, with 1460 MHz base compared to 1469 MHz of the original RX 590. But this is where the similarities end. In its testing, Expreview found that the RX 590 GME is on average 5% slower than the RX 590, and performs halfway between the RX 580 and the original RX 590, which are differentiated by a roughly 10% performance gap. The 5% performance deficit would put the RX 590 GME on par with the new RX 5500 XT 4 GB, and trading blows with the GTX 1650 Super. Thankfully, the RX 590 GME is priced lower than RX 590 cards (about 7.7% cheaper), and could be very region-specific. The fact that the RX 590 GME is being sold with full AIB partner branding and retail packaging, shows that this isn't an OEM-only product. Read the complete review in the source link below.
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Expreview
An Expreview review of an XFX-branded RX 590 GME confirms that the the chip is indeed based on the "Polaris 20 XTR" silicon which is built on the 14 nm process. The card has GPU clock speeds that appear similar to reference clock speeds of the RX 590, with 1460 MHz base compared to 1469 MHz of the original RX 590. But this is where the similarities end. In its testing, Expreview found that the RX 590 GME is on average 5% slower than the RX 590, and performs halfway between the RX 580 and the original RX 590, which are differentiated by a roughly 10% performance gap. The 5% performance deficit would put the RX 590 GME on par with the new RX 5500 XT 4 GB, and trading blows with the GTX 1650 Super. Thankfully, the RX 590 GME is priced lower than RX 590 cards (about 7.7% cheaper), and could be very region-specific. The fact that the RX 590 GME is being sold with full AIB partner branding and retail packaging, shows that this isn't an OEM-only product. Read the complete review in the source link below.
36 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 590 GME is a Dressed Up RX 580: No more 12nm, Lower Performance
AMD is still making Polaris GPUs (and will keep making them for a while).
They simply decided that an RX590something will sell better than RX580. Which is likely true.
They're making chips. They're selling for as much as they can.
If this is any different from RX580, it should get a new name. If not, they're still entitled to do so.
Go to your boss and tell him the company makes useless products. :)
The Chinese will buy RX 5500 or RX 5500 XT instead of this.
This is old, weak, power hungry, expensive, lacks any new modern features and qualities.
It is basically a chip based on R&D in 2012-2013.
Meh, move on...
I can show you an example with ATi's RV410 GPU www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ati-rv410.g9
Both Radeon X700 XT and Radeon X1050 www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-x1050.c1812 were based on it.
Frack me why all this entry level shet filling up the segment , im so sik of entry level shet , are AMD gonna give NVIDIA some curry or what pals ?
good review www.techpowerup.com/forums/members/btarunr.43587/
I don't understand why some on this forum still don't get this. :o
AMD has limited supply of 7nm. Some products have to be made on a node that's easier to get.
They're doing what they can: making 14nm I/O dies, keeping SoCs 1 generation behind and so on.
Some Polaris GPUs, much like some Zen+ desktop CPUs, are still in production.
my comment was not the right choice of words and intellect , to be honest my VEGA 64 is sitting in the box GOING im so overcooked like me for spending so muchj$$ lol
The customers are tired of being treated badly by dishonest companies who only care how to milk them more.
In return, they get mediocre products.
I was talking with people, and I said the 590 GME is most likely an upclocked 580 to move inventory.
At least the price difference is worth it. 7.7% cheaper for 5% less performance. Actually works out in the consumers favour this time. :cool:
XFX Radeon RX 590 GME = 1199 Chinese Yuan ~$170 US
Sapphire RX 590 GME Nitro+ = 1299 Chinese Yuan ~$185 US
PowerColor Radeon RX 590 GME Red Dragon = 1349 Chinese Yuan ~$195 US
ASRock Radeon RX 590 GME PG = 1399 Chinese Yuan ~$200 US
wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-590-gme-polaris-gpu-2020-launch/
www.expreview.com/73332.html
Which would also conveniently buy them enough time to build sufficient stock of 7nm chips for 5500 and 5600 series GPUs that will eventually rep.
Also funnily enough, Tonga (285, 380) has the highest performance and still to date (even beating out Navi) best quality H.264 hardware encoding from AMD.
They have the hardcore fanbase.
They have very good press (mostly thanks to outsourced manufacturing but whatever :) ).
Now it's time to make money.This product is just as "mediocre" as AMD GPUs used to be for the last few years. And they managed to sell quite a lot.
3 months on in 2020, and AMD hasn't released anything significant yet.
AMD CEO Lisa Su interview — 2020 will be a bigger product year for us
venturebeat.com/2019/11/03/amd-ceo-lisa-su-interview-2020-will-be-a-bigger-product-year-for-us/
2020 Will Be High Performance Computing Year for AMD, Says Lisa Su
segmentnext.com/2020/03/04/amd-product-lisa-su/
AMD Zen 3 processors will arrive by March 2021 at the latest
And 5nm AMD Zen 4 will follow by 2022
www.techradar.com/news/amd-zen-3-processors-will-arrive-by-march-2021-at-the-latest
N5 Zen 4 in 2022, while no word on N5 GPUs ?
The R9 285/380 is actually a 28nm RX 480.
The Fury was a 28nm Vega 64 but it had the crappy FPU that underpins Polaris and is bugged in Navi. Vega took the FPU from the 290/390 and that's where the split really started, with a gaming core and a pro core.
The Fury was supposed to replace the 290/390 for gamers. Sadly HBM turned out to be a hassle and the massive core had problems, which driver optimization helped sort until AMD kind of ditched HBM optimizations, until they had to pull Vega back into the mainstream.
The Fury benefits from undervolting, as hot spots do affect the core and impact the speed.
The GeForce Style GCN family tree:
Fury X: 64 CU
285, 380, 480, 580, 590: 32CU
Of course the design was process shrink and tuned up but the GFX engine major version remained the same.
285/380: 28nm
Graphics/Compute: GFX8 (gfx802)
Display Core Engine: 10.0
Fury X: 28nm
Graphics/Compute: GFX8 (gfx803)
Display Core Engine: 10.0
590: 12nm
Graphics/Compute: GFX8 (gfx803)
Display Core Engine: 11.2