Thursday, April 2nd 2020

Intel 10th Gen Core "Comet Lake-H" Mobile Processor Lineup with Desktop-class Performance Announced: 5.3 GHz, 8 Cores, 16 Threads

Intel today announced its 10th generation Core "Comet Lake-H" mobile processor family with a promise of bringing premium desktop-level performance to conventional notebook form-factors, including some bordering the thin-and-light form-factors (under 2 cm thickness). The higher-end of the lineup is geared not just toward serious gaming and creative work, but also toward PC enthusiasts wanting to overclock the processors. For gamers, Intel is guiding its notebook partners to come up with new designs with high refresh-rate and DisplayHDR 1000 displays. The company is also providing OEMs with engineering support to better design their cooling solutions for these processors.

Compared to 9th generation "Coffee Lake-H" processors, the strategy with "Comet Lake-H" appears to be increasing clock-speeds at given price-points, along with introduction of Turbo Boost Max 3.0 technology to this segment, over from the company's HEDT processor lineup. Four out six SKUs hit the magic frequency figure of 5.00 GHz. Two of the SKUs even feature CPU overclocking support. The Core i5 family consists of 4-core/8-thread chips. The Core i7 lineup consist of two 6-core/12-thread parts, and one 8-core/16-thread part. The sole Core i9 SKU is an 8-core/16-thread, with the highest clock speeds and unlocked base-clock multiplier. The "Comet Lake-H" processors are built on 14 nm process, and have identical CPU IPC to "Skylake."
Intel 10th Gen Core-H Comet Lake Lineup Comet Lake-H
The series begins with the Core i5-10300H and i5-10400H are 4-core/8-thread parts with 8 MB shared L3 caches. The i5-10300H is clocked at 2.50 GHz nominal with 4.50 GHz boost; while the i5-10400H ticks 100 MHz faster. The Core i7 lineup consists of three SKUs, the i7-10750H and i7-10850H being 6-core/12-thread parts with 12 MB L3 caches; and the i7-10875H being 8-core/16-thread with 16 MB L3 cache. The i7-10750H is clocked at 2.60 GHz with 5.00 GHz boost; while the i7-10850H runs at 2.70 GHz with 5.10 GHz boost.

The i7-10850H is "partially unlocked," in that you can manually overclock it by up to four "bins" (base clock multiplier values, i.e., by up to 400-ish MHz). The Core i7-10875H doesn't feature an unlocked multiplier, but is clocked at 2.30 GHz, with up to 5.10 GHz boost. Leading the pack is the Core i9-10980HK, clocked at 2.40 GHz nominal, 5.30 GHz boost, and a fully unlocked multiplier. Besides support for Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU), Intel is introducing a new tool that simplifies overclocking, called Speed Optimizer.

It's interesting to note that unlike previous-gen "Coffee Lake-H" series, "Comet Lake-H" chips only support conventional DDR4 SODIMM memory, with native support for DDR4-2933. LPDDR3 support is dropped, and there's no support for LPDDR4 or LPDDR4x replacing it, either. The processors support up to 128 GB of dual-channel memory. Between "Comet Lake-H" and AMD "Renoir," there are quite a few platform tradeoffs. Renoir supports LPDDR4X up to 4266 MHz dual-channel, PCIe gen 4.0, AMD's equivalent of Smart Sound technology (ability to give voice-commands even when the notebook is standing by), and a more advanced power-management solution. Intel's platform-level advantages are solely in the area of PCIe, with 40 total gen 3.0 lanes, which should enable multiple M.2 NVMe slots, Thunderbolt 3 ports, etc.
On the platform side of things, not a lot has changed. The HM470 chipset is the core logic of choice. Combined with the 16 PCIe gen 3.0 lanes from the processor, the chipset puts out 24 gen 3.0 lanes of its own, totaling 40 on the platform. This enables notebooks to have multiple M.2 NVMe slots, more than one Thunderbolt 3 port, and other bandwidth-hungry onboard devices. Intel is standardizing 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6 (gig+) support using the company's new AX201 WLAN card. Some notebooks could even feature 2.5 GbE wired networking.

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44 Comments on Intel 10th Gen Core "Comet Lake-H" Mobile Processor Lineup with Desktop-class Performance Announced: 5.3 GHz, 8 Cores, 16 Threads

#26
Steevo
ppnClearly they are not milking the same custommer with 100Mhz, it is a new born fresh custommer that is just building a system. Almost nobody is replacing a perfectly good cpu just for the 100Mhz bump. Where are those preposterous claims coming from. AMd are not using 7nm. it is 7nm-ish(10-11nm), and we haven't seen 5nm yet, could be in 1 year, could just fail to launch. Given the choice between 5nm-ish, and 7nm Intel that is back on track for 2021, I prefer to wait another year, I upgrade once every decade so it would be worth it.
What are your thoughts on AMD having 30% better performance with 20% less power consumption?
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#27
Valantar
ppnClearly they are not milking the same custommer with 100Mhz, it is a new born fresh custommer that is just building a system. Almost nobody is replacing a perfectly good cpu just for the 100Mhz bump. Where are those preposterous claims coming from. AMd are not using 7nm. it is 7nm-ish(10-11nm), and we haven't seen 5nm yet, could be in 1 year, could just fail to launch. Given the choice between 5nm-ish, and 7nm Intel that is back on track for 2021, I prefer to wait another year, I upgrade once every decade so it would be worth it.
5nm will arrive with the next generation of iPhone SoCs, which means that if it isn't already in volume production it will be in the next couple of months. Lead times for mass production of major components before a product launch are at least 6 months. Should be entirely ready for when AMD needs it.
AldainVersus a 3 years old pc

Intel is cnn of marketing.
Well, in a vacuum it's a good comparison, as that's likely what many are upgrading from - "this is how much of a performance increase your upgrade gets you compared to what you have today". In other words that was relevant before Ryzen arrived. Now ... not so much, no. Now I just keep getting the mental image of Intel as a small person standing in front of a huge Ryzen poster, desperately trying to cover it with their body while shouting "Don't look here, look over there!"
bencrutzIIRC tom's hardware article mentioned below 50°C
...so, never, then? Last I checked most laptops idle around that (if not higher) and run at ~100C when under load.
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#29
yotano211
I'm fine with a 8750h and 1070 on the current laptop. And I used to upgrade my laptop about every 1-1.5 years.
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#30
Logoffon
I'm just gonna wait for AMD Threadripper Mobile so that we can see which one is better out of the two: hot due to high Turbo clock, or hot due to having lots of cores.
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#31
TheoneandonlyMrK
This is some of the most disingenuous marketing I have seen intel put out, just bought a 8750 and rtx2060 laptop, I will happily keep it now the new stuffs out, there is better but substantially ,no.
And their competition have better options IMHO.
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#32
ARF
Vya Domuswww.anandtech.com/show/15687/intel-details-10th-gen-comet-lake-h-for-45-w-notebooks-up-to-53-ghz

Holy shit :
The base frequency of this chip is 2.4 GHz, and it has a regular 45 W TDP (sustained power), which can be run in cTDP up mode for 65 W. Two other plus points on this chip is that it is unlocked, for when an OEM provides more thermal headroom, and it supports DDR4-2933, which is an upgrade over the previous generation. Intel's recommended PL2 (turbo power) for the Core i9 is 135 W, and Intel says the recommended 'Tau' is set to 56 seconds for the i9, and 28 seconds for all the other CPUs. OEMs don't often adhere to these values for notebooks, but they are provided as a guide. It does mean that in order to hit 5.3 GHz, the Core i9 is by default allowed to take 135 W across two cores, or 67.5 W per core. Even at 60W per core, you're looking at 50A of current per core... in a laptop.
135W in order to hit the 2 core maximum boost clocks in a laptop. What are they even doing at this point ?
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SteevoWhat are your thoughts on AMD having 30% better performance with 20% less power consumption?
AMD needs to release Zen 3 sooner. By doing so, the performance and power consumption advantage will become something in the lines of 50%/50%.
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#33
TheoneandonlyMrK
ARF...



AMD needs to release Zen 3 sooner. By doing so, the performance and power consumption advantage will become something in the lines of 50%/50%.
In reality I think they're closer in use to that, a new Intel laptop in the high end lasts considerably less time on similar sized batteries than a Renoir equipped one by a significant amount.
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#34
ARF
theoneandonlymrkIn reality I think they're closer in use to that, a new Intel laptop in the high end lasts considerably less time on similar sized batteries than a Renoir equipped one by a significant amount.
I don't doubt it. Just gave them a bit of bonus, so that they are happier....

AMD needs to call for new class action lawsuits.

Intel promised with the settlement of the $1.25B payment to AMD that they won't do sabotage works anylonger. Well, they continue.

And they have to pay the EU $1.49B fine for breaching the anti-trust regulations.
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#35
TheoneandonlyMrK
ARFI don't doubt it. Just gave them a bit of bonus, so that they are happier....

AMD needs to call for new class action lawsuits.

Intel promised with the settlement of the $1.25B payment to AMD that they won't do sabotage works anylonger. Well, they continue.

And they have to pay the EU $1.49B fine for breaching the anti-trust regulations.
They're still debating that fine these days in court so I think the likelihood of them giving two shits about anti trust to be zero.
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#36
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Welcome to thermal deficiencies in notebooks. 5.3 only in a true gaming laptop/workstation with overbuilt heatpipes and tons of fans.
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#37
ARF
Today Intel is launching the 5th rebrand of Skylake mobile called the 10-series mobile -H aka Comet Lake. SemiAccurate doesn’t see anything worth bothering with here but on with the show.
semiaccurate.com/2020/04/02/intel-launches-10-series-h-comet-lake-mobile-cpus/
theoneandonlymrkThey're still debating that fine these days in court so I think the likelihood of them giving two shits about anti trust to be zero.
Nah, the court may try to increase the fine substantially.
I was wondering if there is someone heavy and big who could get angry about Intel's policies and pushes a heavier punishment for them?
Is there such an organisation?
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#38
TheoneandonlyMrK
ARFsemiaccurate.com/2020/04/02/intel-launches-10-series-h-comet-lake-mobile-cpus/




Nah, the court may try to increase the fine substantially.
I was wondering if there is someone heavy and big who could get angry about Intel's policies and pushes a heavier punishment for them?
Is there such an organisation?
No one bigger than society, choose with your wallet, I want Intel to do well and up it's game, but they are not inspired to do so unless they see a financial gain, I think it's coming.
Intel will drag it through a few more court's, in reality they're not inspired to play fair anyway because 1.5 billion is absolutely f all over a 15 year period IF you made it pay, and shit knows Intel did ,if I were them I might be tempted to double down on it if anything.
And since they're claiming gaming improvement of up to 25% on last generation this generation without any notice of that being by bigger GPUs from Nvidia , seams like plan A is indeed still in effect.
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#39
LTUGamer
The 5.3 GHz performance could be reached for longer time than your expected miliseconds but in this case laptop will be heavy and thick as 10 years old Alienware :D

Look at Eurocom Sky X9C. They succeed to put desktop Core i9 9900KF and two RTX 2080 into one laptop. But the laptop is thick and heavy and ofcoure... expensive as fu...
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#40
Valantar
LTUGamerThe 5.3 GHz performance could be reached for longer time than your expected miliseconds but in this case laptop will be heavy and thick as 10 years old Alienware :D

Look at Eurocom Sky X9C. They succeed to put desktop Core i9 9900KF and two RTX 2080 into one laptop. But the laptop is thick and heavy and ofcoure... expensive as fu...
"laptop"
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#41
arya_farjand
It's just a joke. Still I can't understand those idiots buying Intel. Maybe they need something to warm the water for shower
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#42
dalekdukesboy
AldainVersus a 3 years old pc

Intel is cnn of marketing.
You mean VERY fake news CNN?
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#43
Chrispy_
Vya DomusHoly shit : 135W in order to hit the 2 core maximum boost clocks in a laptop. What are they even doing at this point ?
They're using smoke and mirrors to try and make the numbers on 2015 Skylake technology look relevant.
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