Sunday, March 4th 2007
Analyst view: Sony de-throned, Nintendo crowned in console wars
While Sony has seemed to have market dominance in the console wars ever since the PS1, times have certainly changed. Analysts at a company called "IDC" predicted exactly how the market would come out. They claimed that Sony would have the least sales of the three companies in the console market, Microsoft would ride high sales from the start, and Nintendo would have the best thing, due to innovation instead of going head-to-head with the hardware specs. IDC then goes on to predict that Nintendo will maintain those high sales well into 2008. After that, the future is uncertain, and Microsoft may become the winner of this generation of console wars.
Source:
Nordic Hardware
80 Comments on Analyst view: Sony de-throned, Nintendo crowned in console wars
The system simply gets gimmick and un-fun far too quickly, IMO. Which is why out of the original 5 friends that bought it that first day, two have sold it, one has given his away to a relative, and another traded theirs for an Xbox360. And the one that still has his is the Nintendo fanboy of the group(every group of gamer friends has one, you know who you are), he still has his Virtualboy, and still claims it's only downfall was that it was too "ahead of its time".
im not a consol fan anymore, havent been for years, fight games and coop mode games like halo are the only things that keep me playing consols with friends, and thats more about interacting with another person in a game that dosnt suck then it is about the console being a great platform for it, if i could find good fight games for pc i could play them 1:1 here no problem i got 2 systems more then capable of such.
and...well halo pc sucks.....no coop......poor balance in MP mode........BAD PORT BAD BAD BAD!!!!!
Or for hilarity, have sex with the most things (such as horses :p) in the shortest amount of time?
Maybe that's why they don't make any...lol.
and virtualboy.....omfg, that things horrable, i was around when it came out and ppl wanted it i tryedit at target and didnt want it at all.....gamebody>virtualboy...
a buddy of mine still has 2 of them and every game ever made for them, even ones u couldnt get in the states dirrectly, same thing, he likes to say it was ahead of its time........
its CRAP.....but then again i bet ryboto loves his virtualboy........probbly as a couple and thinks they where ahead of their time :P
you dont tend to find them in the states because americans honestly are to proodish to coap with them, but in japan.....any game store you go into is likely to have some "H" titles.
and FYI hentia=good :)
More than that, with all the P.R. fauxpas from SONY and the paradigm shift in entertainment concept from Nintendo... if i were to get a console, I think I'd be getting the Wii, because I agree with the philosophy. And now that's interesting... if Nintendo used that philosphy concept in their marketing and brand management more... they would build a very large, strong and loyal customer base ready for Wii2 and software.
nintendo dosnt allow alot of truely mature titles, xbox has DOA3(boobies!!!!) doa vollyball and the other vollyball games, as does sony, i havent seen it on gc...and really dought it was ever made, nintendo never has in the past targeted the 16+ croud(when gamers start really being what i consider "mature gamers" en large)
and shooters on nintendo......best they managed from my exp has been crap like doom, a title thats OLD to be kind ;)
i dont just mean the level of the games made by sony,ms,nintendo themselves.
sony has banned "H" titles and even some non "H" titles in the past from being made/sold for their consols, the funny part is that in the past people would mod their ps1/2 to play them anyway :P
ms, well from my exp xbox titles can be made by damn neer anybody my buddy in korea says that koren xbox games are very popular, these are made by koren dev groups and published in korea only, they also have some portable titles avalable if you want to hack you gameboy units to allow them, but they also have some very intresting koren players portable mostly, stuff we dont see here because its hard to break into the us market.
he brought one over in jan that he has with 38+games, its color, lighted, has 56hr batt life on the stock rechargeable batt packs, he payed 120usd for it and 4 games(players choice of games) and its also able to be used as a multi player consol on the floor, think sega nomad or atari linx(one of the best products that was marketed so bad it never took off...)
the games he had with him ranged from blah to great, a fight game much like mk but better gfx.
also it was capable of playing movies the games where held on eather sd cards or pcmcia cards(it has 3 slots) it can also take MD cartreges but from what he says the company hasnt implemented it yet, but the MD drives will come out at 20gb sometime this year and will be ordered with the game titles you want preinstalled, also you can already buy movies for it, and the quility puts the psp to shame.........true dvd quility titles, we watched iron monky and 2 jet lee movies when he was here, hooked it to the tv, steller, :)
it already playes divx/xvid, wmv,wma,ogg, h264 and some other batt time is lost when decoding some formats like h264 because its more intence to decode, it also can support mkv,ogm and some other formats as long as the video and audio used are supported by the players built in decoders(upgradeable by firmware)
its a neet unit, but totaly unavalable here, and i dont see anybody putting one into the us market, because all we get are what sony,ms,nintendo shove at us.......
where i going to buy a consol type unit i would ask him to get me one and some games next time he comes back to visit family(he works for a koren company helping them market stuff outside korea)
sure the games are fun for a short time, or fun for simple minded people to play over and over, bright colors, pretty pictures, simple gameplay, nowonder you are in love with it.
and a little FYI for you, nintendo requiers game makers to get approval to put games on their consol leigaly, hence you dont see many if any true adult titles, you see E titles..
btw E means FOR KIDS, its "safe for all ages" hence its safe for kids to play. exectly, and infact i know for a FACT that some titles have been refused by nintendo because they felt the content didnt fit what they wanted their consol to be, so they didnt approve it, forcing the company who spent all that time making it or porting it to port it to another consol......
and teletubies...ROFL, yeah thats a title anybody over the age of 7 is gonna want anything to do with..........well maby ryboto......he seems like the kinda person who thinks supermario brothers 3 was "for adults because its rated E"
There isn't a very large adult market? O RLY?!?! "On average, gamers are 41 years of age..." :nutkick:
Yep, Nintendo makes shallow fun games, like ones targetted at kids. Adults don't want shallow games. They want games with stories that are more than just "the evil man made everything dirty, clean it" or "the evil man kidnapped the princess/your friend/your mom, get them back", I can't even begin to count how many games have essentially that same story line from Nintendo. Though I know who does find those story lines fun, KIDS! Kids are the ones that can do the same boring task over and over again with no character development and no original storyline.
and the lack of charictor development is something that i really hate in games and books, its why i just gave my copys of the hobbit and lotr away, they are way to kiddy in design, no char development, back in the day i thougth they where THE SHIT, corse i was a KID THEN, now after re-reading them all i realise how shallow they are compared to the works of the likes of Raymond E Fiest and CHRISTOPHER STASHEFF, and many others, and the movies tho well made lacked alot of what i thougth was important to the story, like the whole tom bombadill ark was removed.....
hopefully they dont fuck the hobbit up(i read someplace they are making it into a movie now...)
and for the love of god i hope they never make the simmerilion into a movie.......rofl hard to read or what?
blah i hate shallow games and movies and books.....im spoiled i guess, to many good books read ;)
It is really up to the mod on giving infractions or bans. The mods have really started to be more lenient in recent months. I don't think the infraction system was even used before a few month ago as the first time I acted out of line I was banned instantly.
I love statements like this "sorry m8 but "young teens" and "teens" below 16 are by most peoples defintion KIDS, and the adult gamer market is HUGE, i personaly sold over 200 xboxes when i worked part time at bestbuy back in the day, 2/3 of them went to people 18+ who wanted them to game on and watch movies, the rest where gotten by people who had kids, most of them wanted a game system that wasnt targeted at kids, nintendo targets kids."
Since you say it happened, I can't say you made it up. But it sounds oh so perfect for this situation to support your point. I also love how you worked in the word "kids"...again...what games exactly were on those systems that couldn't be had on the gamecube. Burnout series? A few exclusive Mature rated titles on the Xbox and PS2? I'm surprised you sold that many, judging from your intelligence and grammar in the forums, if you spoke like that I don't see how any one with common sense would listen to you. Sure, lots of 18+ people play, but over the age of 25, that number falls, because people get jobs, have lives, games are at the very lowest of priorities.
"blah i hate shallow games and movies and books.....im spoiled i guess, to many good books read "
really? doesn't seem to be helping your writing skills at all, well, I guess I can't say that, I don't know just how bad they were before. I guess I'm one of the few people that don't need a huge story line to play a game?? In the video medium, film does that for me.
try these titles
The Warlock Inspite of Himself
Magician (comes in 2 parts aprintice and master)
rainbow six
that should help you understand why i find if funny you would say films/video give you a deep story...........lol
last thing insulting somebodys grammer and spelling.......childish at best, i actualy have an excuse for mine being so bad, its called dyslexia
never resort to attacking somebodys spelling or grammer as a way to disscredit them, where i truely in the mood to fight i could correct all of your posts, tho due to my dyxlexia it would take alot of extra time, i got a 98% in english 101 when i took it, only lost the 2% because i missed quite a few days of class(damned flu) those are just a few technicly wrong words.
also look at your suposition that "none of the men that age i know play games" and then consider how limmited your sample group is.
you know that MMORPG's are TARGETED AT OLDER MALES?, EverQuest1 and 2, WoW, AC, and many others are targeted spicificly at ADULT MALES, tho gamer chicks also get into them.
and guess what one of the top $ making game types are?
MMORPG's, kids cant afford to pay to play, but their pairnts can, some pairnts let the kid play, but i only know a few who let the kid play alone, most play themselves THEN get their kids and even wifes into it, becomes a family bonding acctivity.
sames true for people who enlarge buy microsoft and sony game systems, Wii is now trying to target an older market, guess why?
because after seeing the market studys and reasearch they are realising that they can make more off that market then they orignaly thought, also those gamers who played thwir systems as a kid are now "of age" and can afford consols and lots of games, that means more $ for nintendo, but the bulk of nintendo's games (for all generations of consol) are KID GAMES, google around a bit, nintendo has given interviews in the past and even admited their primary target was the kids to young teens(still kids) and that they try and keep titles on their consols approprete for all ages(kid safe titles)
as i said read a good book, dont rely on movies/tv for your "deep storys".
people like tyboto just show what i have been saying for years, this countrys sliping into ignorance, kids today dont read books,they take their whole prespective on "entertainment" from hollywood......sad really.
i would go into more detail but its to damned early in the morning for that :P