Monday, September 7th 2020
AMD 4th Gen Ryzen "Vermeer" Zen 3 Rumored to Include 10-core Parts
Yuri "1usmus" Bubliy, author of DRAM Calculator for Ryzen and the upcoming ClockTuner for Ryzen, revealed three pieces of juicy details on the upcoming 4th Gen AMD Ryzen "Vermeer" performance desktop processors. He predicts AMD turning up CPU core counts with this generation, including the introduction of new 10-core SKUs, possibly to one-up Intel in the multi-threaded performance front. Last we heard, AMD's upcoming "Zen 3" CCDs (chiplets) feature 8 CPU cores sharing a monolithic 32 MB slab of L3 cache. This should, in theory, allow AMD to create 10-core chips with two CCDs, each with 5 cores enabled.
Next up, are two features that should interest overclockers - which is Bubliy's main domain. The processors should support a feature called "Curve Optimizer," enabling finer-grained control over the boost algorithm, and on a per-core basis. As we understand, the "curve" in question could even be voltage/frequency. It remains to be seen of the feature is leveraged at a CBS level (UEFI setup program), or by Ryzen Master. Lastly, there's mention of new Infinity Fabric dividers that apparently helps you raise DCT (memory controller) frequencies "slightly higher" in mixed mode. AMD is expected to debut its 4th Gen Ryzen "Vermeer" desktop processors within 2020.
Source:
Yuri Bubliy (Twitter)
Next up, are two features that should interest overclockers - which is Bubliy's main domain. The processors should support a feature called "Curve Optimizer," enabling finer-grained control over the boost algorithm, and on a per-core basis. As we understand, the "curve" in question could even be voltage/frequency. It remains to be seen of the feature is leveraged at a CBS level (UEFI setup program), or by Ryzen Master. Lastly, there's mention of new Infinity Fabric dividers that apparently helps you raise DCT (memory controller) frequencies "slightly higher" in mixed mode. AMD is expected to debut its 4th Gen Ryzen "Vermeer" desktop processors within 2020.
53 Comments on AMD 4th Gen Ryzen "Vermeer" Zen 3 Rumored to Include 10-core Parts
We already have 16-core "chips": the R9 3950x, which features two 8-core chiplets, each with 2-CCDs of 4-cores. Is Zen3 going to be 8-core chiplets with unified L3? Or are they doubling the size to 16-core chiplets with two L3 caches?
Will next generation's "3950x" be 16-core, or 32-core? I think that's the question most of us want answered. I'm betting just a 16-core part, and that this "10-core chip" is just an interesting cost-saving option (like the 12-core 3900x).
AMD is tired of having 8 cores that cost more than other 8 cores and dont sell as much
One more nudge up for their mid range CPU.
Not That I would complain about 16 cores, cause that is still a good amount of cores to have at your disposal.
Still waiting impatient for more official news about Zen 3. Like IPC gain, core clock, memory clock support and infinity max clock, how many pcie lanes, gaming performance as the drop of ccx will give less latency and by that improve gaming performance and such things.
It's stupid but I still see their point.
4600x - 6 core oc
4700 - 8 core
4700x - 8 core oc
4800 - 10 core
4800x - 10 core oc
4900x - 12 core
4950x - 16 core
Maybe?
Meanwhile, the 10-core SKU might have double the write bandwidth and 2 more cores, but it'll also share the current 2-CCD [slight] DRAM latency penalty, not to mention that having only five cores per CCD places it lower than the six-core SKUs in the binning hierarchy, which might not bode well for volt/freq and speeds on that SKU especially if the 8-cores are poised to have their purported improvements.