Friday, October 2nd 2020

AMD RX 5700 Series Reportedly Enter EOL - No Longer Manufactured

Update, October 7th 2020: AMD has confirmed it has ceased production for the RX 5700, but that RX 5700 XT manufacturing will be ongoing at least until 1Q2021. It's unclear what this means for the company's RDNA2 launch plans; it could be speculated the company will be releasing halo products first, with lower tiers being launched at a later time, in line with NVIDIA's usual launch cadence. This would justify the RX 5700 being kept in fabrication, since with a substantial price cut, it could become a mainstream AMD product).

A report originated from Cowcotland paints AMD as having ceased production on the Navi 10-powered RX 5700 XT and RX 5700. No reference or custom designs are currently being manufactured for either of these GPUs. AMD having ceased production on these cards makes sense, considering the upcoming announcement for the RX 6000 series scheduled for October 28th. This serves as a way for the supply channel to keep draining its supply of RX 5700 cards ahead of the upcoming RDNA 2 solutions. Them being discontinued means that AMD is looking to replace them - at least price-wise - on their product stack.

Interestingly, it appears that the RX 5600 XT is still being manufactured - it's likely AMD reduced manufacturing of Navi 10 so as to feed only this GPU, which should, as such, remain in the market for a little while until AMD launches an RDNA 2 equivalent - if those are the company's plans. TSMC capacity is freed for additional wafers for other AMD product requirements - which, with both Zen 3, next-gen consoles, and RDNA 2 all launching between the same time frame - should tend towards infinity.
Sources: Cowcotland, via Videocardz
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71 Comments on AMD RX 5700 Series Reportedly Enter EOL - No Longer Manufactured

#51
JustAnEngineer
88 hours later, and there's still no mention of the response from AMD refuting this rumor.
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#52
kingDR
rvalenciaAMD has
RDNA 2 with 20/22(?) CU from Xbox Series S
RDNA 2 with 36/40 CU from PS5
RDNA 2 with 52/56 CU from Xbox Series X
RDNA 2 beyond 56 CU as "Big NAVI".

HW raytracing enabled for the entire RDNA 2 product stack.
There's no RDNA 2 for PS5, it's 1.5 based RDNA.
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#53
ValenOne
kingDRThere's no RDNA 2 for PS5, it's 1.5 based RDNA.
Sony's teardown event has confirmed RDNA 2 based GPU for PS5.
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#54
Super XP
Makes total sense, ensure that RDNA2 replace AMDs entire GPU stack. Hopefully they refrain from rebranding. Kick RDNA1 to the curb, it's no longer needed.
kingDRThere's no RDNA 2 for PS5, it's 1.5 based RDNA.
ALL Next Generation GPUs built with AMD hardware is RDNA2 based. There's no such thing as RDNA1.5 That was a speculative post someone posted claiming to be an insider. Don't fall for that.
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#55
Adam Krazispeed
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-big-navi-performance-claims-compared-to-tpus-own-benchmark-numbers-of-comparable-gpus.273150/page-11#post-4371299
Dave65Had one problem with my Red Devil 5700 xt and it was fix with the third set of drivers released. Been perfect ever since.
idk why u had problems, i have two AMD Reference 5700XT's and refeerence 5700 that i flashed an 5700xt bios to.. even the flashed xt bios on the non-xt 5700 i get close to 5700xt performacne _-5-10% and still get 5700XT clocks.. i can even get my xt flashed 5700 to 2066mhz oc with no issiue, more than that i have not tested enough, but i have played dx12 title with flashed 5700 oc @ 2100mhz and matched a stock 5700xt not bad for a $280 non xt gpu..

so i have 3x 5700 series gpus all reference built by AMD and i have not ad any issues.. my gtx 1080ti 11gb hybrid evga sc2 gpu had issues, so my radeon is better and faster (in dx12 anyway)
ChaneLoved my 5700, for $280 it was a steal. I didn't have any issues with it and temps were fine with a nice little undervolt. I was tempted by raytracing :( and sold it, but i'm psyched for these rdna 2 cards and can't wait to see what they deliver.
should of flashed an xt bios to it and not sold it lol, my refernece 5700 is flashed with xt bios of a 5700 xt and its basicaly getting the 110-115% of a 5700xt gpu not bad but u have to run it hot, mine dont get aout 60-70c on full load in a dx12 title ...but at +40% power limit and set @ 2066mhz oc so its a beast of a card just dont have raytracing but even a rtx 2080ti can be brought to its knees with RTX ON.. seriously.. wasnt worth getting an RTX gpu yet, im waiting for RDNA2 and even then i may not use rt-rt effrects cuz i want max fps 144+ unless i can get at minimum of 75fps.. but i have a 144-200hz ultra wide 30" 2560 x 1080p lcd panel and need @ minimum 100-120hz or fps or my gameplay sucks and not butterly smooth..... freesync sucks, gsync sucks too.. even gsync setups make my games crash.... on a rtx 2070ti a friend let me try out, i said nah not worth it so got a 5700xt and then another for 2nd system then got a 5700 non xt just cuz it was cheap asf and got it just for modding it xt biosd mod and power mods etc...
Adam Krazispeedwww.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-big-navi-performance-claims-compared-to-tpus-own-benchmark-numbers-of-comparable-gpus.273150/page-11#post-4371299


idk why u had problems, i have two AMD Reference 5700XT's and refeerence 5700 that i flashed an 5700xt bios to.. even the flashed xt bios on the non-xt 5700 i get close to 5700xt performacne _-5-10% and still get 5700XT clocks.. i can even get my xt flashed 5700 to 2066mhz oc with no issiue, more than that i have not tested enough, but i have played dx12 title with flashed 5700 oc @ 2100mhz and matched a stock 5700xt not bad for a $280 non xt gpu..

so i have 3x 5700 series gpus all reference built by AMD and i have not ad any issues.. my gtx 1080ti 11gb hybrid evga sc2 gpu had issues, so my radeon is better and faster (in dx12 anyway)


should of flashed an xt bios to it and not sold it lol, my refernece 5700 is flashed with xt bios of a 5700 xt and its basicaly getting the 110-115% of a 5700xt gpu not bad but u have to run it hot, mine dont get aout 60-70c on full load in a dx12 title ...but at +40% power limit and set @ 2066mhz oc so its a beast of a card just dont have raytracing but even a rtx 2080ti can be brought to its knees with RTX ON.. seriously.. wasnt worth getting an RTX gpu yet, im waiting for RDNA2 and even then i may not use rt-rt effrects cuz i want max fps 144+ unless i can get at minimum of 75fps.. but i have a 144-200hz ultra wide 30" 2560 x 1080p lcd panel and need @ minimum 100-120hz or fps or my gameplay sucks and not butterly smooth..... freesync sucks, gsync sucks too.. even gsync setups make my games crash.... on a rtx 2070ti a friend let me try out, i said nah not worth it so got a 5700xt and then another for 2nd system then got a 5700 non xt just cuz it was cheap asf and got it just for modding it xt biosd mod and power mods etc...
did a caps mod on my 5700 and had it hittng 2.2ghz +50% power but was running about 80c, but was also drawing over 330 watts for a tiny 251mm2 die is insane.... but was pushed to tht limit on a cut down gou a non xt variant die.. was impressed it hit the 2200mhz when both my 5700xt reference gpus wont even hit 2150mhz with +40-50% pwr limit
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#56
EdLin
ChaneLoved my 5700, for $280 it was a steal. I didn't have any issues with it and temps were fine with a nice little undervolt. I was tempted by raytracing :( and sold it, but i'm psyched for these rdna 2 cards and can't wait to see what they deliver.
I got a 5700 XT for $349, great card.
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#57
darkbreeze
End of life and End of manufacturing are entirely different things. End of life generally means the product has reached the point where it has become so old that the manufacturer is no longer going to support it with driver or security updates and has been out of manufacturing for a good long while. That isn't the case here. Stop being so sensationalist with your articles.

Literary license only goes so far before it runs into the ass end of common sense.
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#59
R-T-B
darkbreezeEnd of life and End of manufacturing are entirely different things. End of life generally means the product has reached the point where it has become so old that the manufacturer is no longer going to support it with driver or security updates and has been out of manufacturing for a good long while. That isn't the case here. Stop being so sensationalist with your articles.

Literary license only goes so far before it runs into the ass end of common sense.
Intel uses EoL to indicate no longer manufactured on spec sheets. So it's not universal.
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#60
darkbreeze
R-T-BIntel uses EoL to indicate no longer manufactured on spec sheets. So it's not universal.
No, they don't. As seen here for the 7700k which is no longer manufactured and shows as "Discontinued", it does not show as EOL.

ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/97129/intel-core-i7-7700k-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-50-ghz.html

Even the i7-970 which has been done for years and years, shows as discontinued. They don't seem to even USE "EOL" in the product status descriptions, regardless of how old it is.

ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/47933/intel-core-i7-970-processor-12m-cache-3-20-ghz-4-80-gt-s-intel-qpi.html
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#61
Colddecked
Spencer LeBlancThe RX 5700 is one of the worst cards I've ever owned. I'm no fanboy of either.
I'm all about price/perf.
On paper the 5700 was a good buy, but all the problems I've had with it prove otherwise.
There were alot of problems with the drivers early on no doubt, but they've pretty much been ironed out. I've on my 5700 flashed to xt that I got for less than 300. I'm more than happy price/perf speaking.
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#62
R-T-B
darkbreezeNo, they don't. As seen here for the 7700k which is no longer manufactured and
Recent change then. Does align more with the industry norm, so that's good.
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#63
darkbreeze
I sort of doubt that Intel bothered to go back and change the spec sheets for every CPU model they've had since the beginning of the Core-i architecture, and they all show "discontinued" rather than end of life, but regardless, you're right, it's in line with the norm.
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#64
anubis44
ixiAMD give me performance around 3090 or even better for 700... then I will be insta sold.
Your wish is AMD's command...
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#65
ixi
anubis44Your wish is AMD's command...
In my dreams. :D
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#66
Spencer LeBlanc
I've always try to vote or support companies with my wallet.
I hadn't bought a AMD card since a 7870. I had the GTX 970 for SERVERAL years.
Last year, when upgrading my PC to a 2700x I decided to just go all team READ for the first time in over 10+ years.

Sadly, I bought an RX 5700. I've had nothing but display issues with it. From day 1 till now.
They are very intermittent, so I really can't find a root cause. But through several driver versions.
One problem always seems to get better, and then another presents itself.

I'm not seeing a huge improvement with my RX 5700 in performance over my GTX 970.
I've used Windows, Linux, with this card. With nothing but issues.

From the bottom of my heart, I hope AMD has more stable cards this go around.
But I think from a stability standpoint. I may update to something different.
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#67
mechtech
In hindsight this now seems pretty crappy since a ton of GPUs are now outa stock.
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#68
Luminescent
Spencer LeBlancSadly, I bought an RX 5700. I've had nothing but display issues with it. From day 1 till now.
They are very intermittent, so I really can't find a root cause. But through several driver versions.
One problem always seems to get better, and then another presents itself.
This seems like a defective card if it can't maintain display output, i find it hard to belief that a GPU company with decades of experience can't deliver the first thing a video card should do, deliver signal to your display.
People will shit on AMD complaining about drivers forever, some people don't even own AMD and still complain about AMD drivers, so it's not a driver problem, it's a story that it's told even by reviewers that AMD drivers are so bad you should buy Nvidia.
I have an AMD card and i tell you it's not true, sure there are some stupid things like fan curves that resets but overall it works.
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#69
Super XP
LuminescentThis seems like a defective card if it can't maintain display output, i find it hard to belief that a GPU company with decades of experience can't deliver the first thing a video card should do, deliver signal to your display.
People will shit on AMD complaining about drivers forever, some people don't even own AMD and still complain about AMD drivers, so it's not a driver problem, it's a story that it's told even by reviewers that AMD drivers are so bad you should buy Nvidia.
I have an AMD card and i tell you it's not true, sure there are some stupid things like fan curves that resets but overall it works.
I couldn't have said it any better. Even on Reddit, people hear stories about AMD drivers sucking and non Radeon owners regurgitating the same nonsense over and over again causing gamers new to Radeon to question there fantastic purchase(s). Its this type of adolescent behavior that spreads misinformation if you ask me. lol
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#70
anubis44
Spencer LeBlancI've always try to vote or support companies with my wallet.
I hadn't bought a AMD card since a 7870. I had the GTX 970 for SERVERAL years.
Last year, when upgrading my PC to a 2700x I decided to just go all team READ for the first time in over 10+ years.

Sadly, I bought an RX 5700. I've had nothing but display issues with it. From day 1 till now.
They are very intermittent, so I really can't find a root cause. But through several driver versions.
One problem always seems to get better, and then another presents itself.

I'm not seeing a huge improvement with my RX 5700 in performance over my GTX 970.
I've used Windows, Linux, with this card. With nothing but issues.

From the bottom of my heart, I hope AMD has more stable cards this go around.
But I think from a stability standpoint. I may update to something different.
Sounds like either the card is defective, or you didn't properly remove the old nVidia drivers from Windows. The symptoms you're describing exactly match both of these scenarios. Can't speak to the Linux situation, but your comment really seems to do a disservice to those who seriously believe the propaganda that nVidia's drivers are superior. They are not. Don't want to listen to me? Check Steve at Hardware Unboxed. He says he's never seen ANY driver issues with the 5700 series after the initial driver refinements, and you'd better believe a hardware test/benchmarking channel like that would have found some if they existed.
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#71
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
Honestly i've seen issues all over the place with both camps drivers, but people ALWAYS blame software instead of hardware when the hardwares faulty.

Just because windows has a BSOD, they blame windows and not the RAM overclock, etc etc.
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