Thursday, October 22nd 2020

Looking for a Paperweight? Buy an Oculus Quest 2 and Get Your Facebook Account Locked

We've all been there - we've all looked longingly at someone elses' flashy paperweight - an Escher puzzle, a coffee mug, a smartphone, a badly flashed GPU or even a face mask are all worthy contenders vying for our attention. Facebook, however, has been turning the paperweight game on its head, and in the real world too - some users who bought the most recent Quest 2 headset (which is apparently selling pretty well) are being given the opportunity to adorn their desks with this high-tech, low-key paperweight due to its Facebook-required integration. Essentially, users who have their Facebook accounts banned (or, more specifically, with pending verification) have been met with difficulties in actually using their Quest 2 (which, by all accounts, is a huge step forward for the VR space).
Facebook's integration with Oculus was something that was guaranteed not to happen back during the acquisition; however, recently, we've discovered that Facebook integration would become mandatory for all Oculus headsets (previous models will be grandfathered via their Oculus accounts until 2023), and that the Quest 2 would be the first headset to mandate that users link their Facebook accounts. The problem stems from Facebook flagging accounts for verification - if that user has an Oculus Quest 2, they won't be able to use the device until the account has been successfully verified. This can be a lengthy process, as Facebook employs a photograph verification process that can sometimes take upwards of three months to get human validation form Facebook's side. Users trying to reactivate old Facebook accounts to use with the Quest 2 have been successfully linked, only to be immediately locked out due to identity verification requirements.

Facebook's idea on Real Identity (where any one account actually fully represents a single person that exists in the non-digital world, and is thus much more valuable for data gathering and advertising revenue) is partly to blame here, as it may bring an overzealous disposition to the table - at least when it comes to Oculus Quest 2 paperweights. For now, Facebook is directing Quest 2 users who have run into these account verification issues to try and clear them with Oculus support. here's hoping that process takes a little less than three months.
Source: Upload VR
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104 Comments on Looking for a Paperweight? Buy an Oculus Quest 2 and Get Your Facebook Account Locked

#101
lexluthermiester
fynxerThat cannot even be legal, that you are forced to have an active Facebook account to use VR.
Actually, it technically is. But the legalities are complicated, just like many aspects of the legal field.
R-T-BWhy not? It's like having to have a google account to post to youtube. Same concept.
No, it isn't. The difference is the hardware and how access is implemented. Having a Google account is not required to access YouTube, to use it or view it's content, only to directly input content(videos/comments). And to use Google made hardware, one does not have to have a Google account. Should you have one and Google lock said account the device in question will still function, only without the Google specific online access. Same if you never set one up.

But with the Quest2, it is non-functional without a FB account. You can't just use the device without the FB functionality. This behavior is very legally questionable, fundamentally unethical and morally lacking on every level.
R-T-BShitty as ever.
Fully agree!
R-T-BAllowed blatantly by runaway capitalism, frankly.
Nonsense like this needs to be roped in and entities like Facebook, Apple, Microsoft and Google need to be put in their place and reminded that while they have the right to do business and make money, they also have the obligation to conduct themselves on a level that is strictly ethical and does not victimize the public through unfair practices.
R-T-BProbably a vizio. Good luck if you go online for even 5 seconds with one of those.
Well duh. Who'd be dumb enough to let a TV get online? The internet is a great utility, but some things are just taken too far. I buy a TV to be a TV, not an internet box.
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#102
R-T-B
lexluthermiesterThe difference is the hardware and how access is implemented.
Ok different example. Webcam tied to youtube (they exist). Razer mouse tied to synapse? It goes on.

I suppose you can still use the BASICS of the razer mouse example, but still...
lexluthermiesterWho'd be dumb enough to let a TV get online?
It asked my wifi and told me I was registering my product. It lied, basically.
lexluthermiesterNonsense like this needs to be roped in and entities like Facebook, Apple, Microsoft and Google need to be put in their place and reminded that while they have the right to do business and make money, they also have the obligation to conduct themselves on a level that is strictly ethical and does not victimize the public through unfair practices.
Keep in mind runaway capitalism does not mean capitalism is bad. Healthy capitalism puts near-monopolies like google back in their infant play pen state at times to keep the market healthy. That was kind of my point. Google and several tech companies definently need a restructuring IMO.
lexluthermiesterI buy a TV to be a TV, not an internet box.
I mean the streaming apps are basically TV for me at this point. The built in apps would be handy if I could trust them more than I can throw them, which I can't.

I have monitors for other content.
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#103
lexluthermiester
R-T-BWebcam tied to youtube (they exist).
Yup, I've set one up for a client. And they still work without an internet connection.
R-T-BRazer mouse tied to synapse?
But as you said, the Razor mouse still works as a mouse without the software.

My point was that the headline of this article hits the nail precisely on the head. Quest 2 is a paperweight without both an internet connection AND a Facebook account even if a user is just using it as a display plugged into a PC, which is completely and totally unacceptable.
R-T-BHealthy capitalism puts near-monopolies like google back in their infant play pen state at times to keep the market healthy. That was kind of my point.
Fully agree.
R-T-BGoogle and several tech companies definitely need a restructuring IMO.
Especially Facebook, Microsoft and Google.
R-T-BI mean the streaming apps are basically TV for me at this point.
Get an Android TV box, root it, install a firewall and a few other app management utilities and have fun. Android TV boxes are dead cheap.
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#104
Andyr
Hmm. I was thinking about picking up a headset for movies. Mandatory Facebook account is no for me too. I've avoided having one so far and I'm not going to start now.
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