Tuesday, October 27th 2020
NVIDIA Allegedly Already Preparing an RTX 3080 Ti Graphics Card
This generation's GPU release is shaping up to be one of the most interesting in late years; for some good reasons, and bad reasons alike. We've heard - keep in mind, not seen - NVIDIA back down from multiple graphics card releases (the double VRAM versions of RTX 3070 and 3080 come to mind); postponing the RTX 3070 until after they have gleaned exactly what AMD will be offering with their RX 6000 series; preparing to launch an RTX 3060 Ti with no announcement whatsoever and before the RTX 3060 is ever launched; and now, apparently, the company is readying a response to AMD's as-of-yet-unannounced RX 6000 series in the form of the RTX 3080 Ti.
Recent performance leaks have placed an unclear AMD GPU (and apparently, not even the fastest Big Navi chip at that) at the same performance level as NVIDIA's RTX 3080, which is a tremendous increase in performance for the red team, coming from years of only being able to effectively compete in the midrange offerings. Now, Kopite7kimi, a known leaker with a proven track record, has claimed that NVIDIA is already prepping a new GA102-based graphics card, sitting in performance between the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090. He lists identifies the GPU as GA102-250-A1, 9984FP32, 384bits GD6X - let's call it the RTX 3080 Ti. If those details are correct, this is yet another product demanding the same 628 mm² GA102 GPU be available for it - in a scenario with inadequate availability of the RTX 3080, 3090, and likely 3070 Ti graphics cards already, should that later one actually materialize. The memory bus on this prospective RTX 3080 Ti is apparently inheriting the same design as the RTX 3090, with a 384-bit solution (compared to the RTX 3080's 320 bit), and likely 12 GB of GDDR6X memory.
Sources:
Kopite7kimi @ Twitter, via Videocardz
Recent performance leaks have placed an unclear AMD GPU (and apparently, not even the fastest Big Navi chip at that) at the same performance level as NVIDIA's RTX 3080, which is a tremendous increase in performance for the red team, coming from years of only being able to effectively compete in the midrange offerings. Now, Kopite7kimi, a known leaker with a proven track record, has claimed that NVIDIA is already prepping a new GA102-based graphics card, sitting in performance between the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090. He lists identifies the GPU as GA102-250-A1, 9984FP32, 384bits GD6X - let's call it the RTX 3080 Ti. If those details are correct, this is yet another product demanding the same 628 mm² GA102 GPU be available for it - in a scenario with inadequate availability of the RTX 3080, 3090, and likely 3070 Ti graphics cards already, should that later one actually materialize. The memory bus on this prospective RTX 3080 Ti is apparently inheriting the same design as the RTX 3090, with a 384-bit solution (compared to the RTX 3080's 320 bit), and likely 12 GB of GDDR6X memory.
77 Comments on NVIDIA Allegedly Already Preparing an RTX 3080 Ti Graphics Card
If people can't get their hands on these utterly overpriced 3090 shows that there's a real yield issue. I have a hard time believing they have yield issues for 3090 and 3080 but that they have tens of thousands of chips that can fit between these skews. You believe what you want, though.
To me this whole thing looks like Fermi all over again, with a very average and power-hungry node, and Nvidia scrambling to come with meaningful updates in a very short time, hence abandoning 2x more VRAM models, coming with Ti models very fast and following up with a 7nm update as soon as possible next year to minimize the damage and take back performance and consumption crowns again.
"in a competition, the person or team considered to be the weakest and the least likely to win "
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/underdog
Underdog simply means that they're not the dominant company. AMD aren't dominant in market share, profit, revenue, share price, popularity, software development, compatibility, software support, I mean - the list goes on for almost as many categories as you can imagine. If you want to narrow your definition of underdog to a specific category and set of criteria, then do that.
Saying "AMD is not an underdog" in the broadest possible sense is provably wrong. There is a vast wealth of published data showing them to be the dictionary definition of underdog.You're now specifically choosing one particular market segment (consumer GPU) and one particular criteria within that segment (performance/$). It needs to beat the 3090 to take the overall performance crown - and I'm not saying it won't either, but 6800XT may not quite beat the 3090 in absolute performance based on leaks - we'll have to see reviews in the coming week.
Like I said previously. I don't think AMD is likely to loose in the GPU competition. The reset you know already.You said AMD is an underdog of the GPU market. I disagree and now I am choosing specifically.
So winning and/or success means performance or statistics (market share) you guys were talking about?
As a multi-sector company there are so many other metrics and sectors. If you can't understand that simple point I (and others) are making, there's no hope in progressing this any further.
If I was using an automotive analogy, we're at the point in the AMD/Intel drag race where AMD are now moving much faster than Intel down the track, but they're catching up from so far behind that the actual overtake isn't going to happen for a while yet.
I just put a reasonable mark up of 40% and sell to all the lazy people that rather pay more money than put in the work to get one.
If this holds true, can someone please remind me again what the hell the purpose of the 3090 is (seeing as how the xx80 Ti cards have always been king of the hill) besides the whole "9 is a bigger number than 8 dur hur!" BS. I guess what I'm trying to say is, and still trying to wrap my head around, why does the 3090 even exist? It's not a Titan, and now with Nvidia allegedly prepping a 3080 Ti (king of the hill, remember) what use does the 3090 have besides bragging rights and epeen points?
Anyway, the card has been played. As a consumer, you almost have to wait on the first guy to one up the second for best value. Lol
Bigger news if you need to trade in your Big-Navi+Kidney to get one of these.
The 3070 begins where the 2080Ti ended, and because of its $500 price tag, it's being well received.
So will the 3080Ti be better than the 3090?
Will there be a Titan 3000?