Tuesday, December 15th 2020

Team Group Successfully Develops Consumer-Grade DDR5 Memory, Begins Validation

Team Group, a global leader in computer memory, has rapidly responded to market demand changes during the crucial transition period of next-generation DRAM technology. By integrating the newest technologies to promote its development of DDR5 memory, it has outpaced competitions and developed the first engineering sample of consumer-grade DDR5 memory. With this success, it will welcome the new DDR5 generation with consumers worldwide.

Presently, Team Group is working hard at producing its first batch of DDR5 memory with the tentative specifications of 16 GB, 4800 MHz, and 1.1 V for a single module. The company is cooperating with major motherboard manufacturers, such as ASUS, MSI, ASRock, and GIGABYTE, providing memory and working together with their R&D divisions to perform validation tests. Through the collaboration of R&D teams, Team Group was able to accelerate the development of its DDR5 memory by adjusting the initial parameters. The successful completion of the validation phase will confirm that the frequencies of standard DDR5 products surpass those of overclocked DDR4 products, and will represent another big step forward in the evolution of computer memory.
It is expected that consumers will not need to enter BIOS to enable the overclocking function as the DDR5 generation begins. After installing DDR5 memory, consumers can directly boot up their computers and experience the high performance without the overclocking step of DDR4. The powerful advantages of faster DDR5 will be instantly demonstrated and consumers will be able to effortlessly enjoy the extreme speed brought by the new generation.
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13 Comments on Team Group Successfully Develops Consumer-Grade DDR5 Memory, Begins Validation

#1
DeathtoGnomes
It is expected that consumers will not need to enter BIOS to enable the overclocking function as the DDR5 generation begins. After installing DDR5 memory, consumers can directly boot up their computers and experience the high performance without the overclocking step of DDR4. The powerful advantages of faster DDR5 will be instantly demonstrated and consumers will be able to effortlessly enjoy the extreme speed brought by the new generation.
How long does this process take? Does this mean we can expect a new batch of motherboards in 2021 while keeping the AM4 socket?
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PrEzi
It is expected that consumers will not need to enter BIOS to enable the overclocking function as the DDR5 generation begins. After installing DDR5 memory, consumers can directly boot up their computers and experience the high performance without the overclocking step of DDR4.
Translated from marketing speech to "normal" -- overclocking of this memory manually will be either hard or disabled and it will only set itself to the profile / settings it was set to work with.
Say bye bye to cheap memory that overclocks well beyond the official specs... e.g. some cheapo Ballistix 3000 @ 3800...

But hey! It just works! Now pay up!
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#3
OREo
DeathtoGnomesHow long does this process take? Does this mean we can expect a new batch of motherboards in 2021 while keeping the AM4 socket?
AM4 support should be over by the end of 2020 which means that we are probably not gonna see AM4 motherboards with ddr5 support
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#4
londiste
PrEziTranslated from marketing speech to "normal" -- overclocking of this memory manually will be either hard or disabled and it will only set itself to the profile / settings it was set to work with.
Say bye bye to cheap memory that overclocks well beyond the official specs... e.g. some cheapo Ballistix 3000 @ 3800...
Not really.
That first batch of DDR5 is going to start at a memory bandwidth spec of very high-end DDR4. There are very few DDR4 modules you can buy that are 4800MT/s.
You do pay for that with increased latency but it wouldn't be marketing if they told you the downsides :)
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#5
Flyordie
londisteNot really.
That first batch of DDR5 is going to start at a memory bandwidth spec of very high-end DDR4. There are very few DDR4 modules you can buy that are 4800MT/s.
You do pay for that with increased latency but it wouldn't be marketing if they told you the downsides :)
This is why I prefer low latency with mid-range clocks. 3200 @ 12-12-13 is perfect for my needs. The even funnier part- I am only hitting this RAM with 1.325V right now and its still 100% stable.
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#6
ebivan
Wow, "succesfuly developed" meaning they managed to solder chips they bought onto a pcb, thats quite an achievement!
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#7
PrEzi
londisteNot really.
That first batch of DDR5 is going to start at a memory bandwidth spec of very high-end DDR4. There are very few DDR4 modules you can buy that are 4800MT/s.
You do pay for that with increased latency but it wouldn't be marketing if they told you the downsides :)
I think you are missing my point here.... Obviously DDR5 will be faster,have higher latencies and lower voltage and error correction... But what I am trying to say is -- there is a high chance the the memory overclocking/tuning days will be gone....
No more "buy cheap memory and overclock it cause you can and cause the modules & die can handle it perfectly fine".
E.g you have bought DDR5 4800 and it will basically be that till their death. No more OC to e.g. 5200 with slight adjustment of timings etc....
Even if the modules could handle more there simply won't be a way to OC them... it will be locked or something like this...
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#8
londiste
PrEziI think you are missing my point here.... Obviously DDR5 will be faster,have higher latencies and lower voltage and error correction... But what I am trying to say is -- there is a high chance the the memory overclocking/tuning days will be gone....
No more "buy cheap memory and overclock it cause you can and cause the modules & die can handle it perfectly fine".
E.g you have bought DDR5 4800 and it will basically be that till their death. No more OC to e.g. 5200 with slight adjustment of timings etc....
Even if the modules could handle more there simply won't be a way to OC them... it will be locked or something like this...
Where are you getting this from? In the press release-y blurb there is nothing hinting at that.
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#9
Fouquin
PrEziTranslated from marketing speech to "normal" -- overclocking of this memory manually will be either hard or disabled and it will only set itself to the profile / settings it was set to work with.
Say bye bye to cheap memory that overclocks well beyond the official specs... e.g. some cheapo Ballistix 3000 @ 3800...

But hey! It just works! Now pay up!
Or it just means extended memory profile settings are gone for good and there won't be long lists of inconsistencies between platforms that support a single memory standard like there are with DDR4. You're spreading a lot of FUD based on assumptions from a single line of a press release from an OEM.
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#10
voltage
not many know, but DDR5 and consumer platforms was slated for 2015 release... thankfully, it looks like its finally coming. Once released, I'll bid farewell to my very old, very stable DDR3 Dell workstation. :)
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#11
PrEzi
FouquinOr it just means extended memory profile settings are gone for good and there won't be long lists of inconsistencies between platforms that support a single memory standard like there are with DDR4. You're spreading a lot of FUD based on assumptions from a single line of a press release from an OEM.
They are moving the voltage regulator to DDR5 Modules, which will definitely make them more expensive as they are now. There will be ECC in those modules (which is something positive and will have a great impact on the instabilities some users might experience due to badly tuned memory profiles), however I believe (and again --- this is also my personal opinion) this will also prevent overclocking, not sure however to which degree.
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#12
Steevo
PrEziThey are moving the voltage regulator to DDR5 Modules, which will definitely make them more expensive as they are now. There will be ECC in those modules (which is something positive and will have a great impact on the instabilities some users might experience due to badly tuned memory profiles), however I believe (and again --- this is also my personal opinion) this will also prevent overclocking, not sure however to which degree.
If they are moving the voltage regulator to the DDR module they are willing to take a big risk in possibly killing CPU's if their module fries the termination points on the CPU. Considering it could be plugged into whatever nm process CPU which has weaker circuits I doubt they will take that risk, or the first generation will have fuses built into them to prevent accidental CPU death.

I hope it will be more of you can overclock and the memory can and will vary its clock rate for power savings or performance much like GDDR has been capable of for awhile now, and ECC that won't stop a bad overclock but will slow the system or prevent it from working at all if pushed too far, and memory training routines could be implemented at startup.
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#13
PrEzi
SteevoIf they are moving the voltage regulator to the DDR module they are willing to take a big risk in possibly killing CPU's if their module fries the termination points on the CPU. Considering it could be plugged into whatever nm process CPU which has weaker circuits I doubt they will take that risk, or the first generation will have fuses built into them to prevent accidental CPU death.

I hope it will be more of you can overclock and the memory can and will vary its clock rate for power savings or performance much like GDDR has been capable of for awhile now, and ECC that won't stop a bad overclock but will slow the system or prevent it from working at all if pushed too far, and memory training routines could be implemented at startup.
Memory training routines have been implemented at least since ZEN-Era.... Or do you mean additional routines?
And I do hope that memory could scale with the load thus introducing power saving modes in idle etc., but this could lead to additional problems like with the GPU I don't want to think about atm in high hopes they (JEDEC and others) already solved it :)
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