medi01Why people keep complaining about stock is beyond me.
Where are you from?

Shit from both GPU manufacturers is in stock, although, nowhere at promised prices:

Stinky Green:
3060Ti - mkay, this one is MIA
3070 - 729€+ (MSRP: $499)
3080 - mkay, this one is MIA
3090 - 1779€+ (MSRP: $1499)

Shameless Red:
6800 - 839€ (MSRP: $579)
6800XT - 949€ (MSRP: $650) oh, wait, MIA now
6900XT - 1279€ (MSRP: $999)

Where: mindfactory de

Mindfactory is just ONE retailer... and stocks are depleting in minutes.
BTW 839€ for a 6800 is ridiculous...

Max(IT)Mindfactory is just ONE retailer... and stocks are depleting in minutes.

It's an ONLINE retailer, that can deliver EU wide (the richest block on this planet, with 450 million people) I've bothered checking.

And no, stock is not depleting in minutes.

Alternate also has plenty in stock (although, same or worse pricing, and, wow, 600€ for 3060Ti, lmao)

Max(IT)BTW 839€ for a 6800 is ridiculous...

Well in line with green pricing, if anything, rather modest.

medi01It's an ONLINE retailer, that can deliver EU wide (the richest block on this planet, with 450 million people) I've bothered checking.

And no, stock is not depleting in minutes.

Alternate also has plenty in stock (although, same or worse pricing, and, wow, 600€ for 3060Ti, lmao)


Well in line with green pricing, if anything, rather modest.

I live between Germany and the Netehrlands: stock is depleting very fast in both stores and 3080 is almost non-existent, just like 3060Ti (available two days ago).

Considering the 6800 at 840€ "in line" with 3070 pricing showed your bias. I paid 639€ for a PNY 3070 on Amazon.de

N3M3515So the ultra will be slower but $50 more expensive?

That's an AIB OC card not Nvidia reference card, so of course It's more expensive than a reference.
I don't know why so many people think It's faster than 3060Ti when It has 12GB and that means 192bit GDDR6 bus which is less than what 256bit what 3060Ti has and from that we can quess It has less Cuda cores.
BTW they won't use different memory sizes to get 12GB Vram(4x 1GB + 4x 2GB GDDR6 chips) on a 256bit wide bus, because full bandwidth would be only for 8GB and the last 4GB would have only 1/2 of that.

Max(IT)3080 is almost non-existent

1) Nobody said it was not
2) It's a nonsensical GPU with 10GB VRAM
3) NV likely wasn't sure it could get away with selling it at twice the announced price and hence didn't produce to much of those

It is essentially 3080Ti sold as 3080 (and 3070 is what should have been 3080, but RDNA2 hit hard and now we expect 3060<something> to have more VRAM than 3070/3080)

Max(IT)stock is depleting very fast

It's been hours since I've posted it and all GPUs are still there.
There will be there tomorrow and the day after as well and if not, only shortly.

Max(IT)Considering the 6800 at 840€ "in line" with 3070 pricing showed your bias. I paid 639€ for a PNY 3070 on Amazon.de

No, it rather shows your fanboism.
849 is an adequate price for 6800 (notably faster, double the VRAM), when 3070 goes for 729, there is nothing to argue about here.

As for "but can't I pull some random price from somewhere", people bought 6800 for 580€ from amd.com.
It is as relevant to this discussion, as color of my neighbor's car.

medi011) Nobody said it was not
2) It's a nonsensical GPU with 10GB VRAM
3) NV likely wasn't sure it could get away with selling it at twice the announced price and hence didn't produce to much of those

It is essentially 3080Ti sold as 3080 (and 3070 is what should have been 3080, but RDNA2 hit hard and now we expect 3060<something> to have more VRAM than 3070/3080)


It's been hours since I've posted it and all GPUs are still there.
There will be there tomorrow and the day after as well and if not, only shortly.


No, it rather shows your fanboism.
849 is an adequate price for 6800 (notably faster, double the VRAM), when 3070 goes for 729, there is nothing to argue about here.

As for "but can't I pull some random price from somewhere", people bought 6800 for 580€ from amd.com.
It is as relevant to this discussion, as color of my neighbor's car.

Lol notably faster... yes unless you activate RT, then the 6800 is ridiculously slow for that price.
I would buy a 3070 over a 6800 every day, even if 8 Gb of VRAM are a poor choice by Nvidia.

THANATOSThat's an AIB OC card not Nvidia reference card, so of course It's more expensive than a reference.
I don't know why so many people think It's faster than 3060Ti when It has 12GB and that means 192bit GDDR6 bus which is less than what 256bit what 3060Ti has and from that we can quess It has less Cuda cores.
BTW they won't use different memory sizes to get 12GB Vram(4x 1GB + 4x 2GB GDDR6 chips) on a 256bit wide bus, because full bandwidth would be only for 8GB and the last 4GB would have only 1/2 of that.

Why would anyone buy a slower card for more money? Nvidia reference card is super good as is.

Let's wait for the card to be released first.
Nothing can be said of performance before the card is actually benchmarked.

The first discrete graphics card i've ever bought was the nVIDIA Riva TNT2 Ultra back in 1999/2000 , so for me the Ultra brand has a great sentimental value.
Most likely the RTX3060 Ultra will be my next GPU !! Hyped-up!!

Tuesday should tell.

Regular and cheaper 3060 would be better.

hatI had an FX 5200 Ultra back in the day. It's not reserved for high end only... but it should be the highest of that particular model.

TNT2 Ultra and GF2 Ultra are the oldest Ultras I can remember.

Nothing wrong, but it implies better that Ti, so how the hell does it fit below 3060ti or between 3070, 50 eur space.

Anymal50 eur space

or 10% performance.

TheLostSwedeDoes this even matter if there won't be any stock?
Apart from 3090's, there's almost no stock left, even here.

I saw some 3080's trickle in in a shop but then the prices are up to the previously announced 3090 prices, it's more than a little ridiculous.

My theory is that all RTX cards are bought up for render farms that will put 'man on mars' - if you catch my drift :D
I mean NASA and Musk sort of promised, and you don't want to announce all the deaths and suicides until there is nobody left, it would be depressing.

Wshlistall RTX cards are bought up for render farms that will put 'man on mars' - if you catch my drift :D

I don't.

Am i in the twilight zone? When Jensen did his video there were 3 cards, all stupidly priced. Even though I have lost count I still don't see the $300 US card that both camps need to release.

kapone32Am i in the twilight zone? When Jensen did his video there were 3 cards, all stupidly priced. Even though I have lost count I still don't see the $300 US card that both camps need to release.

You are in another world, my friend.

cst1992You are in another world, my friend.

Yeah I know it's like a perfect storm for GPU price woes.

Max(IT)Lol notably faster... yes unless you activate RT, then the 6800 is ridiculously slow for that price.

Yeah, in all those dozen games where you can do it. Oh, minus 2 games on DXR 1.1.
What a monumental loss... :D