Friday, March 26th 2021

Bizarre/Interesting Tech on Crowdfunding Platforms: Massive BLUETTI 5100 Wh UPS!

I'll admit that I came across this almost immediately after the DUEX dual-screen laptop monitors yesterday, but had to do a double take after glancing at this thing which took a day! Having just moved across multiple oceans, yours truly was in the mood for a UPS for the review test setup and this got my interest in more ways than one. BLUETTI had launched a 2000 Wh energy storage device last summer, which was pretty good timing for all the work-at-home and energy shortage experiences shortly across the globe, and the company clearly saw a need to go even bigger. This time, they have up to a 5100 Wh "portable" UPS/battery that can be charged by AC mains or even solar power.

The portability comes in the form of a fairly compact and energy-dense device on wheels, with the intention being to roll this over to wherever you want. The increased energy density relative to a typical UPS is indeed with a Lithium-ion battery, but one that uses LFP (Lithium Iron Phosphate) chemistry instead. LFP chemistry, for those interested, is relatively new to the battery market owing to challenges until recently in increasing the electrical conductivity, but offers advantages over most other options in not using nickel or cobalt, thus making it more eco-friendly, safer, and less costly, while retaining increased charge/discharge cycles at a usable efficiency. Indeed, the BLUETTI EP500 Pro claims 6000 cycles of use at retaining ~70-80% capacity at this point, which alone means you can run a small house for 15+ years should you find the means to charge it consistently too. The company is providing the means to hook it up to solar charging kits, as well as a fusion panel for 240 V operation from the 120 V units to run high-power machinery. Yes, it's complete overkill for my needs and yours, and at $2799+ on Kickstarter for the SKUs it is priced out for many DIYers too, but it's still interesting tech from a materials and engineering perspective that perhaps may interest some home owners here. Apparently others agreed with this already, seeing as how it met its goals within 24 hours and has a little under 2 months left to go to break some crowdfunding records. Hit the link in the source for more info if you are interested!
Source: BLUETTI Kickstarter
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38 Comments on Bizarre/Interesting Tech on Crowdfunding Platforms: Massive BLUETTI 5100 Wh UPS!

#26
Dux
This is great. Tesla battery packs are more expensive than this and not meant to be portable. I have portable gas generator in my vacation house. But the noise it makes is annoying. Why not get this silent portable UPS that i can charge with solar?
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#27
R-T-B
MescalambaThink that might be very useful in close future. Especially in EU, once more stupid countries move from regular sources of electricity to alternative ones and grid will be overloaded or blackout every day.
You're confusing the EU with natural gas powered texas.
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#28
Nihilus
If you really want to live "off the grid", get a 3000w dual fuel inverter hooked up to a huge propane tank. Maybe having something like this or smaller for night time just to power a few lights and refrigerator so you are not running the inverter generator 24/7.

Trying to run your home just off of this and solar panels would not be optimal unless you have consistent sunlight and are living VERY minimalistic.
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#29
Jism
Isaac`dam i did not know that
ive always wanted a ups to ease my computer when power goes poof cause i own a ps3 (it dies if it losses power most the time)
but never got around to it but this thing could full on keep the computer gaming when the power goes out
Then the UPS you had was "too small". I have a 2000VA UPS here and it's capable of running a toaster at 1000W easily for a few minutes. A computer would be around 300 ~ 500W which is half of a toaster and thus increasing the uptime that UPS can deliver. You can tweak it yourself by adding battery's with a greater capacity as well.
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#30
Hachi_Roku256563
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JismThen the UPS you had was "too small". I have a 2000VA UPS here and it's capable of running a toaster at 1000W easily for a few minutes. A computer would be around 300 ~ 500W which is half of a toaster and thus increasing the uptime that UPS can deliver. You can tweak it yourself by adding battery's with a greater capacity as well.
e never had one
and i meant a couple of hours
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#31
Jism
You can always extend the lifetime of a UPS by simply increasing the amount of battery's (current/watts an hour). However the home made office kind of UPS's are not designed to constantly run. I had issues myself in running a small UPS with a high load. The transformer pretty much got hot.
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#32
Mescalamba
R-T-BYou're confusing the EU with natural gas powered texas.
EU has countries like Germany.

Germany lives in illusion that they can be completely carbon free and stop everything thats not "green" energy, including nuclear options. Sure they can. And in same time, they can also use only vehicles powered by electricity. I mean, what can go wrong..

What will happen is that they will do that and then buy electricity from less green sources (and ofc nuclear sources) from their neighbours. A tiny problem there is that a) electricity price will mimic price of BTC and b) power grids wont be able to survive it. Which will lead probably to end of civilization or at least industry and normal life in Germany. :D
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#33
windwhirl
MescalambaEU has countries like Germany.

Germany lives in illusion that they can be completely carbon free and stop everything thats not "green" energy, including nuclear options. Sure they can. And in same time, they can also use only vehicles powered by electricity. I mean, what can go wrong..

What will happen is that they will do that and then buy electricity from less green sources (and ofc nuclear sources) from their neighbours. A tiny problem there is that a) electricity price will mimic price of BTC and b) power grids wont be able to survive it. Which will lead probably to end of civilization or at least industry and normal life in Germany. :D
Nuclear as far as I understand is clean energy...? Granted, it has the Chernobyl risk and you have to handle it with care, but, it's clean.

Nevermind, it has the waste problem
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#34
R-T-B
MescalambaEU has countries like Germany.

Germany lives in illusion that they can be completely carbon free and stop everything thats not "green" energy, including nuclear options. Sure they can. And in same time, they can also use only vehicles powered by electricity. I mean, what can go wrong..

What will happen is that they will do that and then buy electricity from less green sources (and ofc nuclear sources) from their neighbours. A tiny problem there is that a) electricity price will mimic price of BTC and b) power grids wont be able to survive it. Which will lead probably to end of civilization or at least industry and normal life in Germany. :D
I don't share your apocalyptic apraisel of green energy, but then I do consider nuclear a "green" option so that does open a lot more doors.
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#35
DeathtoGnomes
R-T-BI don't share your apocalyptic apraisel of green energy, but then I do consider nuclear a "green" option so that does open a lot more doors.
I consider nuclear a partial green measure, mostly due to it toxic and water waste.
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#36
Mescalamba
Meh, its not my view, just our comrades from Germany.

I have nothin against nuclear energy, cause if done properly its definitely one of cleaner energies. Not many know, I guess, but nuclear fuel can be recycled (into another fuel, just needs specific way of handling and reactors). France does that, for example.

Thing is, at this moment its only energy that can be used in big scale without having too severe results on nature. Thus its green(ish).

Also only way to sustain that idea of "green" everything. Which is in general BS, cause while it can be done, it cant be done way EU wants it to do.

Only result from EU will be most likely complete economical collapse of countries participating and EU itself. And most likely pretty nasty one as they will up the propaganda. Wont be surprised if it will remind Soviet union in many ways sooner than later (it already does in some aspects).
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#37
R-T-B
DeathtoGnomesI consider nuclear a partial green measure, mostly due to it toxic and water waste.
Depends on the implementation really, but yes, that is the primary achiles heel.

And I do not agree that green policies certainly lead to economic collapse, but we are OT as is.
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#38
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
DeathtoGnomesI consider nuclear a partial green measure, mostly due to it toxic and water waste.
None of our power generation techniques are green yet, only greenER

Nuclear creates waste, which is an issue... but at least its contained and not vented into the atmosphere

solar/wind have toxic fun during the manufacturing and mining processes, so we just dont have any perfect solutions yet
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