kayjay010101That's not CMP. Those previous cards were just rebranded gaming cards.
To quote NVIDIA directly: "CMP products — which don’t do graphics — are sold through authorized partners and optimized for the best mining performance and efficiency. They don’t meet the specifications required of a GeForce GPU and, thus, don’t impact the availability of GeForce GPUs to gamers."
Source: blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/02/18/geforce-cmp/

I would very much like to believe it - and see it tested.

kayjay010101To quote NVIDIA directly: "CMP products — which don’t do graphics — are sold through authorized partners and optimized for the best mining performance and efficiency. They don’t meet the specifications required of a GeForce GPU and, thus, don’t impact the availability of GeForce GPUs to gamers."
Source: blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/02/18/geforce-cmp/

Because we can always take the corporations for their word right? :rolleyes:

Even if Nvidia is being honest about CMP cards only using defective dies, that doesn't mean it doesn't affect the supply of GeForce cards. Sure, if the dies were already defective and couldn't be used for gaming cards anyway, go right ahead, slap em on there. But what about the rest of the components used to make the card? The PCB, mosfets, capacitors, etc. could all be put towards gaming cards instead. The raw material shortages that are going on as well play a role too.

What about the supply chain side of things? Between pandemic and Evergreen-related supply chain delays and increased costs, it's more expensive and more difficult for AIB partners to secure cargo space. Cargo space that is used to ship CMP cards to retailers means it's not being used to ship gaming cards to retailers. Sure, it's not the case of "this container has CMP cards and therefore can only have CMP cards", I'm sure shipments don't have to be homogenous, but any pallet of CMP cards using cargo space is cargo space that isn't used by a pallet of gaming cards.

Then there's the resale side of things. No video outputs means no resale value to gamers once the miners are done with them, so they just get used until they die or tossed out when the miner is done mining.

Nvidia is out to make money. No matter what they say, they don't care about you or I, the miners, or the gamers. Their prerogative is to pad their wallets as best they can. They know that any card, whether it be a gaming card or a mining card, will sell like hotcakes. It's not like miners say "Ok, I've got my 6 cards, now I don't need any more". These cards are moneymakers for them, and they're going to buy whatever they can to increase their profitability as well. Producing CMP cards is Nvidia's way of continuing to turn a profit (because anything will sell), while also putting up the façade that they "care about gamers" for better PR, and while also ensuring the used market won't be oversaturated with used cards gamers can buy on the cheap - forcing them to buy new cards at full price.

This is about the dumbest card i have seen .

The only practical reason I think they would add RGB to a CMP is to visually identify if a GPU went off among the hundreds of cards that a facilty operates.

milewski1015Because we can always take the corporations for their word right? :rolleyes:

Even if Nvidia is being honest about CMP cards only using defective dies, that doesn't mean it doesn't affect the supply of GeForce cards. Sure, if the dies were already defective and couldn't be used for gaming cards anyway, go right ahead, slap em on there. But what about the rest of the components used to make the card? The PCB, mosfets, capacitors, etc. could all be put towards gaming cards instead. The raw material shortages that are going on as well play a role too.

What about the supply chain side of things? Between pandemic and Evergreen-related supply chain delays and increased costs, it's more expensive and more difficult for AIB partners to secure cargo space. Cargo space that is used to ship CMP cards to retailers means it's not being used to ship gaming cards to retailers. Sure, it's not the case of "this container has CMP cards and therefore can only have CMP cards", I'm sure shipments don't have to be homogenous, but any pallet of CMP cards using cargo space is cargo space that isn't used by a pallet of gaming cards.

Then there's the resale side of things. No video outputs means no resale value to gamers once the miners are done with them, so they just get used until they die or tossed out when the miner is done mining.

Nvidia is out to make money. No matter what they say, they don't care about you or I, the miners, or the gamers. Their prerogative is to pad their wallets as best they can. They know that any card, whether it be a gaming card or a mining card, will sell like hotcakes. It's not like miners say "Ok, I've got my 6 cards, now I don't need any more". These cards are moneymakers for them, and they're going to buy whatever they can to increase their profitability as well. Producing CMP cards is Nvidia's way of continuing to turn a profit (because anything will sell), while also putting up the façade that they "care about gamers" for better PR, and while also ensuring the used market won't be oversaturated with used cards gamers can buy on the cheap - forcing them to buy new cards at full price.

They lied, and they still do, they can go bankrupt and I would care less, the current economy is merely teaching me how to live without their provided luxury and I'm losing sight of these companies.