Monday, May 31st 2021

AMD "Zen 3+" Microarchitecture is "Zen 3" with 3D Vertical Cache Technology, 15% Gaming Perf Gain

AMD CEO Dr Lisa Su, in her Computex 2021 Keynote address detailed what could very well be the "Zen 3+" microarchitecture that's been in the news lately, although the name "Zen 3+" was never used in the keynote address. AMD has collaborated with TSMC on developing a new die-on-die 3D stacking technology using TSVs (through-silicon vias) and structural silicon substrate, to place a 64 MB SRAM on top of the "Zen 3" CCD, which it calls 3D Vertical Cache. This cache die sits directly over the region that has the CCD's own 32 MB L3 cache, and the difference in height between the two dies is leveled using structural silicon. At this point we don't know how the cache hierarchy is changed, whether the 64 MB add-on cache is contiguous with the on-die L3 cache, or whether it's an L4 victim cache to the L3$. With it, the total cache amount of the CCD jumps to 100 MB (4 MB L2 caches + 32 MB L3 cache + 64 MB 3D Vertical Cache).

AMD has made some startling claims as to the performance impact of 3D Vertical Cache Technology. It claims that gaming performance improves by an average of 15%, which is akin to a generational performance impact in and of itself. With these gains, AMD hopes to make up whatever gaming performance deficit the "Zen 3" microarchitecture has against Intel's "Rocket Lake-S." The first processors implementing 3D Vertical Cache Technology will start arriving by the end of 2021, which means it could very well be the Ryzen 6000 series desktop processors, leaving the Ryzen 7000 series to be based on the 5 nm "Zen 4," on track to a 2022 release.
How AMD plans to release these updated dies on the client ecosystem remains a mystery. The prototype Dr Su showed in her keynote address clearly appears to be Socket AM4. If the new Socket AM5 is on course to later this year, it's very likely that these "Zen 3 + 3D VC" CCDs could be paired with an updated cIOD (client I/O die) that supports DDR5 memory, and packaged for AM5.
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56 Comments on AMD "Zen 3+" Microarchitecture is "Zen 3" with 3D Vertical Cache Technology, 15% Gaming Perf Gain

#51
AleXXX666
matarHats off AMD, But Just still bought an I9-10850k because NO stock and had to ridiculously over pay for a RTX 2060 GPU just to get my system running. Cant over pay for 2 items.
great choice of CPU. but, why you choose RTX 2060? for short strategy, better get 1050ti/1650 and later upgrade to 3060 as the good future proof minimum. RTX 2060 is good card, but, FOR THESE PRICES, THEY SELL THE SH*TTIEST ONES, GIGABYTE 2-fans only, ETC.....
RealKGBtheir FX glue-two-cores-together thing
lol, there were Opterons on AMD side, and Core2Quad on Intel side, no "invention" here.:D
ratirtPlenty of stock bro and discounts. How could you've missed it?




One more refresh for AM4 would have been nice. I got a CPU but if it turns out to be 15% better as they claim, might pull a trigger on this one as well.
especially $20 is BIG DEAL:roll:
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#52
quadibloc
I understood the demo of the 3D technology as showing the benefits of adding the extra cache to what was otherwise an unmodified Zen 3 CPU, so I see no reason whatsoever to think that this has anything to do with the Zen 3+ microarchitecture. As for the Zen 3+ microarchitecture being cancelled - at least for mainstream desktop CPUs, the rumors now say it will still make it into laptop APUs - if that's true, supposedly it's only because Zen 4 was ready earlier than expected (plus the product cycle being stretched out due to the chip shortage).
And it makes sense that even if Zen 3+ is great, Zen 4 will be even better.
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#53
ratirt
AleXXX666great choice of CPU. but, why you choose RTX 2060? for short strategy, better get 1050ti/1650 and later upgrade to 3060 as the good future proof minimum. RTX 2060 is good card, but, FOR THESE PRICES, THEY SELL THE SH*TTIEST ONES, GIGABYTE 2-fans only, ETC.....


lol, there were Opterons on AMD side, and Core2Quad on Intel side, no "invention" here.:D


especially $20 is BIG DEAL:roll:
The point is, it is available widely since people claim there's still no way for any AMD chip purchase which isn't true. If it's $20 cheaper that's just a bonus it doesn't matter at this point.
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#54
mtcn77
AMD's "Bring-Up" kids explain it best.
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#55
simlife
matarHats off AMD, But Just still bought an I9-10850k because NO stock and had to ridiculously over pay for a RTX 2060 GPU just to get my system running. Cant over pay for 2 items.
wow i hope u didnt WAY over pay for a card in 2019 now in 2021 that was considered bad is why the 20sereis cards kinda failed it was abad value and cant do good ray trancing and dlss 1.0 was meh at best
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#56
simlife
matarHats off AMD, But Just still bought an I9-10850k because NO stock and had to ridiculously over pay for a RTX 2060 GPU just to get my system running. Cant over pay for 2 items.
seems you dont understand caps... maybe you are a content creator but that cpu is insanely higher then...well everything lets use the new gogrouse ratchet and clank game look the the reviews if u need to to see the beauty ... your cpu is insanely higher then the 400 dollar new consoles... but your gpu is about 35% weaker and gpu is 80% of the time the bottleneck in all games... so over playing in 2021 for the 20 sereis that was considered bad in 2021...why that was almost a 2018 card.. did you spend more ten the 299/399/499 last has a terabyte ssd and a 4k player.. for much much less power. if so why??!?
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