Tuesday, July 13th 2021

Crypto Goes Nuclear: Pennsylvania and Ohio to be Home to Nuclear-Powered Cryptomining

Crypto is going nuclear in the not so distant future, as US company Talen Energy revealed plans to construct a cryptomining data center in the immediate vicinity of the Susquehanna Steam Electric Station in Pennsylvania. Initial power consumption of the installation is expected to settle around 164 MW, with that figure climbing up to 300 MW once the infrastructure is complete - powered by dual 1+GW nuclear units and two independent substations. Talen Energy estimates maximum on-site power in the order of 1 GW.


The idea is to begin a narrative reversal around the environmental cost of cryptocurrency mining - if power is provided by cleaner technology, cryptocurrency mining's carbon footprint is bound to be reduced, in turn increasing attractiveness for environmentally-conscious businesses. Elon Musk, for one, made waves in both news outlets and cryptocurrency markets (and value) when he announced the decision for Tesla to cancel acceptance of Bitcoin as payment for its vehicles, citing environmental concerns regarding power sources keeping Bitcoin's blockchain secure. Another company, Energy Harbor Corp, announced a five-year collaboration with Standard Power to power its Bitcoin blockchain mining center in Coshocton, Ohio, starting December this year.
Love it or hate it, blockchain technology is going nowhere - it's one of the most important, fundamental and transformational technologies in recent decades. much like nuclear power (and nuclear weapons, for that matter) weren't loved by everyone at the technologies' introduction (and still aren't loved by everyone), so does the future contemplate blockchain technology irrespective of our own personal opinion on the matter. It was only a matter of time before crypto went nuclear - and for a technology that consumes more power than several countries combined, the change to more sustainable, less carbon-.intensive technologies surely is a welcome one.
Source: TechSpot
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101 Comments on Crypto Goes Nuclear: Pennsylvania and Ohio to be Home to Nuclear-Powered Cryptomining

#26
canadianminingfarm647
mechtechI looked back at my parents and grandparents like as if you didn't recycle, as if you put lead in everything.

I guess none of that compares to a nuke plant an nuclear waste to make imaginary stuff to try to real money.

What a sad state of affairs.

Maybe try real mining, like gold, the traditional way to get money..........
Crypto mining is electronic mining and its here to stay we as the world can't be not evolving versus the traditional way of mining and its not imaginary its a virtual currency
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#27
moproblems99
canadianminingfarm647Crypto mining is electronic mining and its here to stay we as the world can't be not evolving versus the traditional way of mining and its not imaginary its a virtual currency
This is what it looks like why while you guys are doing it right?

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#28
canadianminingfarm647
Lol

No bitcoin mining is a huge cash cow I've been bitcoin mining for 10 years now
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#29
moproblems99
You should have said yes. Way more romantic. Just nerdy now.
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#30
Ivaroeines
In principle i'm for cryptocurrency(idea behind it), the bad thing is that its waste of energy, even if you don't believe in human created climate change it should worry you that most of the electricity made for mining will be from coal, oil and other air-pollutants. Every 'poor' country will eventually jump on the crypto currency bandwagon to generate income, we in the 'rich' countries can not deny them that as they have the same rights as us when it comes to making money, the beauty with coal and oil generated electricity is that much of the problems are exported to other countries, they can like the USA just ignore international treaties. We in the rich part of the world have for a long time worked(40 years or so) against enviormental treaties, so can they.
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#32
Metroid
I would not live or work closer to that thing, I guess all the properties around the nuclear power plant already sank in price.
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#33
Renald
This is all but "green" ...

To produce some PoW that can be stored on a Floppy disk for a lifetime of mining, you need :
  • Build a Nuclear reactor
  • Mine Uranium (so green)
  • Use centrifuges to have U-235 (even greener)
  • Properly dispose of nuclear waste (yeah)
  • Build hundred of thousands of ASIC chip (we all know it's a green industry)
  • Build the system around
  • Have people come and go every day to maintain it operable
  • Change pieces regularly because technology is going really fast
Seriously, how can you sell that this thing is somehow ecological ?
It maybe less terrifying than running on coal, but you need to remember that you need a 1000$ chip + 200W during a year to have 1500$.

Is mining 1 ETH greener than 15 one-hundred dollar bills? I don't think so. Coin idea is great. Coin actual state is totally broken.
I don't even speak of the whole paying side hardware needed (NFC chips, servers, blockchain validation which is super heavy load, etc.)


Coin are not stable yet. When you see a coin get *30 in value under 2 month, you can't say it's viable option, whatever the reasons are.
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#34
moproblems99
RenaldThis is all but "green" ...

To produce some PoW that can be stored on a Floppy disk for a lifetime of mining, you need :
  • Build a Nuclear reactor
  • Mine Uranium (so green)
  • Use centrifuges to have U-235 (even greener)
  • Properly dispose of nuclear waste (yeah)
  • Build hundred of thousands of ASIC chip (we all know it's a green industry)
  • Build the system around
  • Have people come and go every day to maintain it operable
  • Change pieces regularly because technology is going really fast
Seriously, how can you sell that this thing is somehow ecological ?
It maybe less terrifying than running on coal, but you need to remember that you need a 1000$ chip + 200W during a year to have 1500$.

Is mining 1 ETH greener than 15 one-hundred dollar bills? I don't think so. Coin idea is great. Coin actual state is totally broken.
I don't even speak of the whole paying side hardware needed (NFC chips, servers, blockchain validation which is super heavy load, etc.)


Coin are not stable yet. When you see a coin get *30 in value under 2 month, you can't say it's viable option, whatever the reasons are.
Well, if you want to be silly about it... manufacturing anything is particularly ungreen. Especially when you have to tear up the earth for the minerals.
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#35
R-T-B
ThrashZoneHi,
Nuclear plant not sure that would happen EPA wouldn't sit still for that to happen anytime soon.
It is. This isn't yesteryears green lobby.
moproblems99This is what it looks like why while you guys are doing it right?

No, pretty sure that's a gamer dwarf from DRG.
RenaldSeriously, how can you sell that this thing is somehow ecological ?
Because it doesn't just do that, it builds green infrastructure for everything else.
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#36
Chomiq
The whole site is suppose to pull 300 MW to mine virtual currency. Much green!
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#37
R-T-B
ChomiqThe whole site is suppose to pull 300 MW to mine virtual currency. Much green!
It's not all for crypto. Nearly none of the new powerplants are.

Honestly, I doubt even 1/3rd is used for actual mining.
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#38
64K
imo we should be building nuclear power plants and shutting down coal powered plants. They are safe if run right. France generates 70% of their electricity from nuclear plants. It's cheaper than coal powered plants to generate electricity. France generates so much cheap electricity that they export it to neighboring countries.
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#39
R-T-B
64Kimo we should be building nuclear power plants and shutting down coal powered plants. They are safe if run right. France generates 70% of their electricity from nuclear plants. It's cheaper than coal powered plants to generate electricity. France generates so much cheap electricity that they export it to neighboring countries.
I agree completely, but it will take buckets of money considering most (if not all) western businesses designing reactors are gone for good. Westinghouse was the last in a long deck of dominos there.

This is where crypto "big money" is actually ideally set up to help us.
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#40
xorbe
Nuclear reactors to search for unique numbers that someone is willing to pay actual sovereign money for. They've jumped the shark.
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#41
Ruyki
I hope future generations will find all the digital coins we made worth it when they have to deal with the spent nuclear fuel.
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#42
AusWolf
So much for claims that crypto is free from governmental and corporate influence.
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#43
Minus Infinity
Is this one of those new generation Nuclear plants that don't generate waste.
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#44
TheUn4seen
The cryptocurrency talk seems like just a way of putting a positive spin on building nuclear reactors, which some poorly educated armchair activists seem to think is somehow bad - saying that what they aggressively portray as bad is actually good will probably burn out their synapses and make them quiet for a while.
Personally, I think it's great. The more current-generation reactors the better for everyone - country I was born in is still around 95% coal and gas, with all the great things burning coal and gas brings, like cancer caused by atmospheric pollution, CO2 emissions and such. The whole country looks like a damn red blob on a global pollution map which even I, a radical and antisocial misanthrope, think is a horrible irresponsibility on a large scale.

Also, to clarify: It's almost impossible to build a powerful energy source for a singular energy sink, the balancing of such system would be really risky, as they say, "on knife's edge". That's why the electrical grid is a marvel of engineering and a highly underrated step in enabling technological and social progress.
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#46
looniam
we in ohio would gladly sell one of three our nuclear power plants. personally i'm tired of all the corruption around the government funding.
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#47
turbogear
We live in a strange word.
There are nations where having electricity for 24/7 is a luxury :( and there are other nations where we build Neuclear Power Plant for Crypto mining.

I have mixed feeling when it comes energy produced by Nuclear Power Plants. One one-hand it is better than using fossil fuel that is causing our climate to change but on the other hand it reminds me how dangerous it could be when one thinks about incidents like Fukushima:
m.dw.com/en/japan-fukushima-nuclear-disaster/a-56825937
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#48
faquino
Nukecoin...
... because of green greed, of course
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#49
Bomby569
This is incredible stupid. The US is still burning coal as if they where some poor 3rd world country, so this is just shifting power away from the countries needs, it's as green as i am a green martian.
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#50
laszlo
crypto is not green no matter how to power it...
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