Tuesday, July 13th 2021

Crypto Goes Nuclear: Pennsylvania and Ohio to be Home to Nuclear-Powered Cryptomining

Crypto is going nuclear in the not so distant future, as US company Talen Energy revealed plans to construct a cryptomining data center in the immediate vicinity of the Susquehanna Steam Electric Station in Pennsylvania. Initial power consumption of the installation is expected to settle around 164 MW, with that figure climbing up to 300 MW once the infrastructure is complete - powered by dual 1+GW nuclear units and two independent substations. Talen Energy estimates maximum on-site power in the order of 1 GW.


The idea is to begin a narrative reversal around the environmental cost of cryptocurrency mining - if power is provided by cleaner technology, cryptocurrency mining's carbon footprint is bound to be reduced, in turn increasing attractiveness for environmentally-conscious businesses. Elon Musk, for one, made waves in both news outlets and cryptocurrency markets (and value) when he announced the decision for Tesla to cancel acceptance of Bitcoin as payment for its vehicles, citing environmental concerns regarding power sources keeping Bitcoin's blockchain secure. Another company, Energy Harbor Corp, announced a five-year collaboration with Standard Power to power its Bitcoin blockchain mining center in Coshocton, Ohio, starting December this year.
Love it or hate it, blockchain technology is going nowhere - it's one of the most important, fundamental and transformational technologies in recent decades. much like nuclear power (and nuclear weapons, for that matter) weren't loved by everyone at the technologies' introduction (and still aren't loved by everyone), so does the future contemplate blockchain technology irrespective of our own personal opinion on the matter. It was only a matter of time before crypto went nuclear - and for a technology that consumes more power than several countries combined, the change to more sustainable, less carbon-.intensive technologies surely is a welcome one.
Source: TechSpot
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101 Comments on Crypto Goes Nuclear: Pennsylvania and Ohio to be Home to Nuclear-Powered Cryptomining

#51
SetsunaFZero
laszlocrypto is not green no matter how to power it...
our dirty fiat system isn't much greener
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#52
AusWolf
SetsunaFZeroour dirty fiat system isn't much greener
Human greed isn't much greener - fiat, crypto or otherwise.
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#53
ThrashZone
SetsunaFZeroour dirty fiat system isn't much greener
Hi,
At least it's real and used to be backed by gold which is really mined lol
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#54
WeeRab
The world really has gone mad. Misusing huge amounts of real power to solve an algorithm that has no benefit at all to human existence.
There are no words....
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#55
Dr_b_
nuclear power at the point of generation may not emit greenhouse gases, but its emitting waste heat, and of course, producing horrifically dangerous toxic waste
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#56
moproblems99
ThrashZoneHi,
At least it's real and used to be backed by gold which is really mined lol
What good does 'used to be backed by gold which is really mined' do for fiat? It offers legitimacy for actually destroying the Earth?
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#57
ThrashZone
Dr_b_nuclear power at the point of generation may not emit greenhouse gases, but its emitting waste heat, and of course, producing horrifically dangerous toxic waste
Hi,
It also wastes limited fresh water for cooling.
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#58
moproblems99
ThrashZoneHi,
It also wastes limited fresh water for cooling.
25% of America's annual irrigation water usage goes towards growing food that ends up in landfills and dumpsters.
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#59
Vayra86
AusWolfHuman greed isn't much greener - fiat, crypto or otherwise.
THIS.

Meanwhile this is when/why crypto in its current form will rapidly die - if they push ahead on it which seems likely, much like our coming Green Deal.

www.ecb.europa.eu/paym/digital_euro/html/index.en.html

Might not even utilize blockchain at all. Ease of use combined with non volatility and properly backed is the only way any currency can actually be called currency.

And @moproblems99 fiat is backed by real world insitutions that are accountable. Central banks and companies that represent or hold actual capital, in the shape of what they contribute to an economy and society. Crypto is backed by faith it might someday change the world ;)
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#60
moproblems99
Vayra86And @moproblems99 fiat is backed by real world insitutions that are accountable. Central banks and companies that represent or hold actual capital, in the shape of what they contribute to an economy and society. Crypto is backed by faith it might someday change the world
That isn't what I quoted, please read it again. What I quoted was
ThrashZoneused to be backed by gold which is really mined
What advantage does 'used to be' and 'really mined' provide fiat today? ;)
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#61
Vayra86
moproblems99That isn't what I quoted, please read it again. What I quoted was

What advantage does 'used to be' and 'really mined' provide fiat today? ;)
My bad lol
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#62
moproblems99
To add:. If fiat isn't backed by gold today, then who cares if it was and was actually mined. It doesn't add any value today because they are decoupled. So I ask:. Who cares what fiat used to be if it isn't now?

And also: which is worse destroying hundreds of acres of greenery that absorbs co2 while polluting with co2 while you are doing it or just hashing a block?

Let's not forget how many gold mining operations catch gold with mercury and then force their workers to sort it while swimming in mercury laced water. I am so glad mining is so environmental!
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#63
Vayra86
moproblems99To add:. If fiat isn't backed by gold today, then who cares if it was and was actually mined. It doesn't add any value today because they are decoupled. So I ask:. Who cares what fiat used to be if it isn't now?
Does that implicate we someday wont care about crypto having been mined at some point? Its an interesting thought.
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#64
moproblems99
I don't care it's mined now. I care it puts real dollars in my bank account.
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#65
Solidstate89
RaevenlordYou'll remember this comment when your entire life lives in a blockchain - from democratic voting, to payments, bank accounts, taxes, and even your very own personal token.

I'll be laughing when we're all being sold and bought in the blockchain.
Yes the most inefficient database method ever devised by man whose only purpose right now is to scam people out of millions by grifting them with pump and dump altcoins is going take over all aspects of our lives.

Complete delusion.
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#66
Zareek
WeeRabThe world really has gone mad. Misusing huge amounts of real power to solve an algorithm that has no benefit at all to human existence.
There are no words....
Yup, and don't forget how crypto has also enabled cyber crime to become a full on epidemic! How would all these ransomware attacks be pulled off using traditional currencies?

While I support nuclear power, I don't support wasting energy! Mining using nuclear power is just as wasteful as using any other power source.
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#67
moproblems99
ZareekYup, and don't forget how crypto has also enabled cyber crime to become a full on epidemic! How would all these ransomware attacks be pulled off using traditional currencies?
I never realized that cyber crime couldn't flourish before crypto! Thanks for bringing that to the forefront of the world.

Amazing such a simple endeavor of banning crypto would stop world cyber crime!
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#68
R-T-B
AusWolfSo much for claims that crypto is free from governmental and corporate influence.
Did anyone ever claim it was free from corperate influence? And this still doesn't impact the codebase or rules at all.
Bomby569This is incredible stupid. The US is still burning coal as if they where some poor 3rd world country, so this is just shifting power away from the countries needs, it's as green as i am a green martian.
This plant would likely be closed, mothballed, and providing zero energy (rather than a cut) of it to civilian tasks without crypto.
ZareekWhile I support nuclear power, I don't support wasting energy! Mining using nuclear power is
See above.
moproblems99I never realized that cyber crime couldn't flourish before crypto! Thanks for bringing that to the forefront of the world.

Amazing such a simple endeavor of banning crypto would stop world cyber crime!
Did we not have telephone "support" hijacking scams well before crypto existed? Yes, we did.
Solidstate89Yes the most inefficient database method ever devised by man whose only purpose right now is to scam people out of millions by grifting them with pump and dump altcoins is going take over all aspects of our lives.

Complete delusion.
Blockchain is not inherently inefficient. PoW is.

Blockchain is a world changing tech for those who understand its capabilities, which extend far beyond printing bitcoins.

You are looking at one negative feature that affects us, and failing to see the overall picture.
ThrashZoneAt least it's real
How? I mean its just serial numbers on paper at it's heart too. The only thing making it "real" is the same thing that makes bitcoin real.

Trust, in respective markets.
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#69
moproblems99
R-T-BDid we not have telephone "support" hijackimg scams well before crypto existed? Yes, we did.
Apparently crypto existed at the time or it wouldn't have been possible :rolleyes:
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#70
AusWolf
R-T-BDid anyone ever claim it was free from corperate influence? And this still doesn't impact the codebase or rules at all.
I just assumed that people wanting to be free from dirty evil governments would also want to be free from dirty evil corporations. My bad.
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#71
xorbe
moproblems9925% of America's annual irrigation water usage goes towards growing food that ends up in landfills and dumpsters.
California screams at people to not waste water, local municipalities run around writing residents water tickets and water fines. In reality, 95%+ of the water is used unchecked by businesses. Local powers claiming to crack down on grandma watering her flowers out front, it's all virtual signalling for the neighborhood news.
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#72
Caring1
xorbeCalifornia screams at poor people to not waste water, local municipalities run around writing residents water tickets and water fines. In reality, 95%+ of the water is used unchecked by businesses. Local powers claiming to crack down on grandma watering her flowers out front, it's all virtual signalling for the neighborhood news.
Fixed that for you. ;)
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#73
moproblems99
AusWolfI just assumed that people wanting to be free from dirty evil governments would also want to be free from dirty evil corporations. My bad.
Good luck trying to keep corporations from influencing something. In fact, I don't think I can think of anything they don't have a hand in.
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#74
R-T-B
AusWolfI just assumed that people wanting to be free from dirty evil governments would also want to be free from dirty evil corporations. My bad.
You are always under the influence of something. It's unavoidable. That said, less is better, generally.
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#75
Solidstate89
R-T-BBlockchain is a world changing tech
No it's not.
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