The red spiritThat stuff doesn't matter. It will be very underwhelming device and if 400 Euros means nothing to you, then feel free to flush it down the toilet. I don't see any reason for such half assed product to exist.

Custom soc with rdna2 cores, half assed? Being able to seemless play your windows games thru linux half assed? Just because it doesnt appeal to you doesnt mean its half assed.

Arch Based OS... hah... now that is great.... Its a nice thing to have arch linux experience :)

night.foxArch Based OS... hah... now that is great.... Its a nice thing to have arch linux experience :)

my 12 year old steam account, usa, with 1k games on it.... isn't it enough for them... says my account is to new to place a reserve for the $399 variant.

a ******* joke. gabe can go eat more pizza, im done with steam

lynx29my 12 year old steam account, usa, with 1k games on it.... isn't it enough for them... says my account is to new to place a reserve for the $399 variant.

a ******* joke. gabe can go eat more pizza, im done with steam

well couldnt even pre-order here in korea... so..

night.foxwell couldnt even pre-order here in korea... so..

ye but that isn't the point, must be some kind of error... cause if 12 yo account isn't good enough then... eh...

point is steam always has an error or issue, so I'm glad I couldn't reserve it. best to keep my $400 in the bank.

lynx29ye but that isn't the point, must be some kind of error... cause if 12 yo account isn't good enough then... eh...

point is steam always has an error or issue, so I'm glad I couldn't reserve it. best to keep my $400 in the bank.

did a quick search. yeah seems like error or server got loaded and lots have received same issue as yours

night.foxdid a quick search. yeah seems like error or server got loaded and lots have received same issue as yours

yeah but server has been getting overloaded for decade now on big sale days, etc. bit pathetic they haven't figured it out. you can rent servers for a short period of time from various companies... its really not that hard and probably not even that expensive for a big company with annual contract discounts.

I reserved a Steam deck. I am really excited about this. It will be a great platform for indie games and emulation.

Valve updated their tech specs with details on RAM and Storage. So it actually has a M.2 slot 2230 but still. Just not 'intended for end-user replacement'.

No clue on why Valve is saying that memory is dual-channel, obviously it shouldn't be as LPDDR5 channels are 16b and that would be a paltry 32b memory bus. I am guessing that it means that they are using two memory chips. I would hope that it has a full 128b memory bus but god knows, if it was DDR5 it would be 'quad-channel' for it to be 128b though.

Looking forward to the tear downs.

persondbNo clue on why Valve is saying that memory is dual-channel, obviously it shouldn't be as LPDDR5 channels are 16b and that would be a paltry 32b memory bus. I am guessing that it means that they are using two memory chips. I would hope that it has a full 128b memory bus but god knows, if it was DDR5 it would be 'quad-channel' for it to be 128b though.

It is a little confusing how they name things. DDR4 used 16b "channels" too. But that was referring to the DRAM chips themselves. What we traditionally think of as a memory channel is referring to the DIMM package itself. If you take 4 16-bit chips and put them on a single DIMM package, you get a 64-bit channel.

A handheld that runs all of my steam games on linux? I hit the Pre-Order as fast as I could.

It's not worth quibbling over $5, at least they didn't ask for the full amount up front?

Can't wait for mine! Actually haven't been excited about a product in years until I saw this.

For me, a must buy!

Best,

Liquid Cool

newtekie1It is a little confusing how they name things. DDR4 used 16b "channels" too. But that was referring to the DRAM chips themselves. What we traditionally think of as a memory channel is referring to the DIMM package itself. If you take 4 16-bit chips and put them on a single DIMM package, you get a 64-bit channel.

I mean, you aren't technically wrong, though DDR4 chips comes from x4 to x16. But that's more about it in desktop for DIMMs really.

If you per example take at other places you will see it that it's different, per example Renoir supports quad-channel LPDDR4 and it says so explicitly in the Linux kernel
github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/bfdc6d91a25f4545bcd1b12e3219af4838142ef1/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/dcn21/dcn21_resource.c#L261
Four channels with each having 32 bits(actually 2x16) for 128 bits in total.

The difference is that in the case of DIMMs, it's putting those DDR4 chips into a topology such as that they act like a single channel, which is what we normally know DDR4 as for.

I believe that the most common in mobile and in those other applications it's really to just not tie them together like in DIMMs, unless you don't can't support that many memory controllers. Which honestly, there's no really no reason to not if you can.

If you look per example at this, it's show a package solution for it and overall it's better and more performant to do it using 4 channels(4x16 bits memory controller) than to tie them into a single channel(so 64 bits memory controller). Though at this point, who the fucks knows. I would certainly hope for a full 128 bits bus though.

ColddeckedCustom soc with rdna2 cores, half assed? Being able to seemless play your windows games thru linux half assed? Just because it doesnt appeal to you doesnt mean its half assed.

It's just an SoC. with Vega 8 updated with RDNA 2. I'm telling you it's not going to run games well and you want it to do it through linux with overhead. It's just not going to end well. And it's portable, so forget proper battery life. And it's 400 Euros+ for poverty spec one, which can only store one game. You will pay more for actually usable version. And in the end it's going to cost you twice than desktop Ryzen computer and will be even slower. Considering that they sort of hacked together some linux and probably did bare minimum for controller support in games, it will be half-assed. It's going to be a terrible value.

NordicIf that stuff doesn't matter, then why are you complaining about it?

You surely love misinterpreting my posts, don't you?

I wonder if it supports Freesync Premium (VRR + LFC) on built-in display and on external ones when connected through dock. This would be a really welcome feature.

I just saw someone call it the "GabeBoy" :laugh:

TheDeeGeeI just saw someone call it the "GabeBoy" :laugh:

I would have gone with GabeGear instead. It looks more like a Game Gear to me, expect the engineers said "how can we make a Game Gear as big as a skateboard".

Reportedly new reservations have been pushed back to mid 2022. And there's already Ebay listing from scalpers selling reservations for 2x+ MSRP.

I don't know a good fix, but scalping is becoming a serious issue.


As for size, it's not that much bigger than a switch.

The red spiritIt's just an SoC. with Vega 8 updated with RDNA 2. I'm telling you it's not going to run games well and you want it to do it through linux with overhead. It's just not going to end well. And it's portable, so forget proper battery life. And it's 400 Euros+ for poverty spec one, which can only store one game. You will pay more for actually usable version. And in the end it's going to cost you twice than desktop Ryzen computer and will be even slower. Considering that they sort of hacked together some linux and probably did bare minimum for controller support in games, it will be half-assed. It's going to be a terrible value.


You surely love misinterpreting my posts, don't you?

1) Anything a PS4 can play well, this can play as well or better. It is going to be AMAZING for emulation.
2) Battery life will be near 8 hours for indie games and emulation.
3) You can store dozens of indie games and roms on 64 GB. They are usually no more than 2 GB anyway. Those kinds of games won't care about the slow speed of the SD card add on either.
4) A full ryzen desktop is not remotely portable and comparing them is ignoring the appeal of a handheld device. Look at how popular the Nintendo DS and Switch have been. There is a market for handheld devices.
5) Hacked together some kind of linux? Please. You are assuming it is half-assed. Proton has come a long way from the first steam machine. Most windows games are playable on linux RIGHT NOW because of Valve. The games that just don't work are because of various anti-cheat implementations, of which Valve has announced they are working on.

Your opinions on the Steam Deck are objectively false or are unrealistic expectations. See 1-5.

Please explain to me like I am 5 hour I am misinterpreting your posts.

I was talking to my mate today, he says the only problem is, steam support for their hardware stuff is cack. The steam controller has pretty much bombed, same for steam link, and steam machine.

I really like the look and specs of this, i am hoping they will keep up the backup on it though.

newtekie1I would have gone with GabeGear instead. It looks more like a Game Gear to me, expect the engineers said "how can we make a Game Gear as big as a skateboard".

I like that GabeGear, got a nice ring to it. Get that shit copyrighted now

Got one reserved, a 512GB model. I've got a year to come up with the money lol. I'm looking forward to it. It'll be a great alternative to the GPD Win. It's an upgrade to the system I have now, and portable on top of that! The etched anti glare screen will come in handy when I'm playing while waiting to load my work truck lol. The truck also has a 200w outlet so charging shouldn't be a problem hopefully. My phone has pretty good Hotspot capabilities so lack of mobil sim isn't an issue. It is unfortunate that storage is soldered but 512 should be enough for a few bigger games. Mostly play solo games anyway so things like gta online won't be a problem. Worst case if Steam support drops I'll either load Windows on it or get into RetroArch

I put in for the $400 emmc version, by the time my order comes up there should be plenty of information available about the device, I'm curious to see if the 64GB is soldered or if they are using the m.2 port.

Its gonna flop.. does pre order numbers are not looking good

RichardsIts gonna flop.. does pre order numbers are not looking good

Where are you seeing pre-order numbers?

Even if it does flop, it isn't like it needs Valve to support it like an Xbox would. It is linux. Any tech enthusiast can keep the software up to date themselves.

xBruce88xWorst case if Steam support drops I'll either load Windows on it or get into RetroArch

That is the nice thing about linux. Even if steam drops support, it will keep working the same.

www.pcgamer.com/amp/valve-hardware-before-steam-deck/

Doomed...... possibly