Thursday, August 26th 2021

Barrowch Launches CPU Waterblock with Integrated 1440p Screen

Barrowch has recently launched the FBLTHD-04N CPU waterblock for Intel platforms featuring ARGB lighting and an integrated 2.9-inch 1440 x 1400 LCD display with HDMI input. The display is powered via a 5 V micro USB connection and features a 1100:1 contrast ratio along with a 60 Hz refresh rate. Barrowch suggests that the screen can be used to display information from AIDA64 via a custom template made for the device however any HDMI signal can be shown. The waterblock features a copper-nickel plate with G1/4" threads for watercooling loop connections. The block is compatible with Intel LGA115X, and LGA1200 sockets and is now available to purchase in silver and black colors directly from the manufacturer in China for ~ 150 USD.
Source: Barrowch
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36 Comments on Barrowch Launches CPU Waterblock with Integrated 1440p Screen

#1
Rhyseh
That display seems like an incredible amount of overkill. Also is it possible to have different DPI settings from your primary displays? If not, this screen, while cool, seems kind of pointless for anything other than looking pimp as fuck.
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#2
silentbogo
Leftover HMD displays? I'd thought of a hundred different uses for this cool tech, and sticking 1440p LCD on a waterblock is not one of them.
I doubt you can even appreciate 240p on a 2.9" display at >1m viewing distance.
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#3
Ferrum Master
silentbogoI doubt you can even appreciate 240p on a 2.9" display at >1m viewing distance.
Albeit all those 240p are shit brightness and contrast wise... so you had to make compromises.

These could be QC fails, that can't hold high refresh rates etc... you have to put them somewhere...
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#5
Tom Yum
Seems counter productive to add a heat producing element to a device designed to cool a CPU. Sure, it is likely only adding 5W of additional heat, but why do it when it serves no purpose?
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#6
TheLostSwede
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Tom YumSeems counter productive to add a heat producing element to a device designed to cool a CPU. Sure, it is likely only adding 5W of additional heat, but why do it when it serves no purpose?
LCDs this size don't get that hot, maybe 1W. I mean, it can't even draw more than 2.5W if it follows the USB spec, so 5W of heat would be impossible
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#7
nienorgt
Seriously, who needs a 693DPI screen on a waterblock?
Not only it’s twice the DPI of a small size smartwatch, it’s also more dense than a typical VR headset display!
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#9
silentbogo
Ferrum MasterThese could be QC fails, that can't hold high refresh rates etc... you have to put them somewhere...
Even so, waterblock would be at the bottom of my list. You can make a decent low-cost projector, or if minor defects or refresh rate is really an issue - thermostat or any other "smart" device which people actually look at. Heck, if it sold under $100 for a display with HDMI scaler, it would fly off shelves getting snagged by electronics enthusiasts like there's no tomorrow.
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#10
Ferrum Master
silentbogoEven so, waterblock would be at the bottom of my list. You can make a decent low-cost projector, or if minor defects or refresh rate is really an issue - thermostat or any other "smart" device which people actually look at. Heck, if it sold under $100 for a display with HDMI scaler, it would fly off shelves getting snagged by electronics enthusiasts like there's no tomorrow.
The HDMI may be the issue here... You can't drive it simply enough without relying from something like STM32 and if the driver even exists.

But as we know... a proper MCU is an unobtanium now, so why wait? Also in reality, how many of them will be made? Few hundreds maybe...?
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#11
Rahnak
Does it come with a magnifying glass so you can read all that tiny information on the screen?

Seems like a failed case of "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should".
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#12
Vayra86
They even missed a golden Ambilight opportunity there. The screen and the leds are there...
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#13
silentbogo
Ferrum MasterThe HDMI may be the issue here... You can't drive it simply enough without relying from something like STM32 and if the driver even exists.
There are tons of mobile drivers out there. When VR and AR just started to pick up, hackers used to make relatively inexpensive FPGA-based solutions, but nowadays you can get an aftermarket board with proper mipi or eDP driver for under $30. I've even seen dual-display drivers on Ali specifically for VR. There are also many kits similar to whatever was used in Rift DK2 (just a smartphone screen w/ driver).
Using this thing isn't a problem. Getting it cheap - is. At $150 it's actually on the edge of being cost-effective to just get a pair of blocks and tear them down for DIY HMD project. You'll probably end up with something similar to OSVR at nearly identical BOM tally, but it's DIY - fun and education is priceless.
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#14
Asni
It's fine but they also need to include a pump as they did in the FBLTPRP-04.
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#15
Ferrum Master
silentbogoThere are tons of mobile drivers out there. When VR and AR just started to pick up, hackers used to make relatively inexpensive FPGA-based solutions, but nowadays you can get an aftermarket board with proper mipi or eDP driver for under $30. I've even seen dual-display drivers on Ali specifically for VR. There are also many kits similar to whatever was used in Rift DK2 (just a smartphone screen w/ driver).
Using this thing isn't a problem. Getting it cheap - is. At $150 it's actually on the edge of being cost-effective to just get a pair of blocks and tear them down for DIY HMD project. You'll probably end up with something similar to OSVR at nearly identical BOM tally, but it's DIY - fun and education is priceless.
Eh? You have the display IC driver source and it can be compiled with any ARM/MIPS whatever platform out there? I guess not. You rely on the already made most probably MIPI interface, which pretty closed legal wise.

They are bought as a whole and Chinese use them as lego. Nobody will write and addon that requires something so specific like that, China is very weak on software, they make pretty interesting HW products, but the software side is always lacking or stolen.

It went offtopic, but product as such as such small quantities is like drop in bucket, to your ambitious claim seeing in various smart home devices, that would require basically whole software stack rewrite and basic hardware upgrade, that also ain't feasible in times like these. Those smart devices will not ever use some additional converters or boards, just price wise, they have to talk to screen directly without any additional BOM, to remain competitive, not just vaporware, basically like this waterblock is.

You can have fun at home an source parts from Ali. But not on commercial scale.
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#16
TheoneandonlyMrK
Well I suppose you could play doom on it, though I wouldn't want to play doom eternal on it though.

Just why though.
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#17
Ferrum Master
TheoneandonlyMrKWell I suppose you could play doom on it, though I wouldn't want to play doom eternal on it though.

Just why though.
You can attach a Raspberry PI, with dedicated content... for example turn it into a live eye, that tracks your movement... or something like that...
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#18
maxfly
Barrow, barrow, barrow always with the strange and off the wall. Id love to see the focus group that convinced them this was a good idea.
They do have a way of pushing the industry in directions you never could have imagined without them!
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#20
DeathtoGnomes
I think it would a little hard playing crysis on that without extra tools, like a 50x magnifying screen.
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#21
CheapMeat
I hope you can get it without the rad and fittings, etc. Also where is the "ch" name coming from? I thought it was Barrow.
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#22
maxfly
CheapMeatI hope you can get it without the rad and fittings, etc. Also where is the "ch" name coming from? I thought it was Barrow.
They add the ch to their premium gear for some reason. I forget why.
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#24
silentbogo
Ferrum MasterEh? You have the display IC driver source and it can be compiled with any ARM/MIPS whatever platform out there?
Why? It's a bog-standard mipi-dsi. I even found a part they are using: it's a 2.89" SHARP mipi panel, the exact same as in HP mixed reality headset(even the same connector), but capped at 60Hz.
There's a full HMD kit as well, with quad-lane mipi bridge board (uses Toshiba driver) and interconnect board for HMD or whatever dual-display application you have in mind.
Essentially al you need is an SoC that can do MIPI (which is pretty much anything), or add an interface bridge to whatever video output you need. There are tons of options from Parade, TI, Toshiba and others.
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#25
TheoneandonlyMrK
Err, where is the hdmi in on this device.
I can't imagine a good place for a stiff hdmi lead to plug in and NOT
A look ridiculous?!

B interfere with memory ,vrm ,GPU or case lid in some cases?!
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