Tuesday, March 8th 2022
AMD Said to be Releasing no Less Than Four New Ryzen 5000-Series Chips in March
According to yet another leak, it would appear that AMD is planning to release no less than four new CPUs in its Ryzen 5000-series this month, with the obvious headline product being the already announced Ryzen 7 5800X3D. However, details of a further three CPUs have turned up on Twitter and it looks like AMD is planning to go head to head with Intel, if the rumoured price brackets are indeed correct. The expected three new CPUs are the Ryzen 7 5700X, Ryzen 5 5600 and Ryzen 5 5500.
The Ryzen 7 5700X is as expected an eight core, 16 thread CPU that is said to be cheaper than an Intel Core i5-12600KF, which means an MSRP around the US$250-270 mark. The six core, twelve thread Ryzen 5 5600 on the other hand, is said to be cheaper than the Core i5-12400, so it should get a sub US$200 MSRP. Finally the six core, six thread Ryzen 5 5500, is said to land at the same price point as the Core i3-12100, pointing at a US$130 MSRP. Unfortunately, no indication of pricing for the Ryzen 7 5800X3D was given, but based on the fact that AMD seems to be dropping the pricing of its current Ryzen 5000-series of processors in the US market, it'll hopefully get a competitive price point.
Update Mar 8th: According to a post on Facebook by a computer shop called TechMovers in the Phillipines, we can except an additional two SKUs to what leaked this weekend. No actual specs were provided, but in addition to the Ryzen 5000-series chips mentioned originally, it looks like AMD is planning on adding a pair of 4000-series models as well. The two chips will be the Ryzen 5 4500 and the Ryzen 3 4100. These new chips might not even be based on the Zen 3 architecture, considering AMD put them in a series of their own, but as these new chips are expected to arrive later this month, the wait won't be too long until we find out what AMD has in store.
Sources:
@Zed__Wang, via VideoCardz, TechMovers
The Ryzen 7 5700X is as expected an eight core, 16 thread CPU that is said to be cheaper than an Intel Core i5-12600KF, which means an MSRP around the US$250-270 mark. The six core, twelve thread Ryzen 5 5600 on the other hand, is said to be cheaper than the Core i5-12400, so it should get a sub US$200 MSRP. Finally the six core, six thread Ryzen 5 5500, is said to land at the same price point as the Core i3-12100, pointing at a US$130 MSRP. Unfortunately, no indication of pricing for the Ryzen 7 5800X3D was given, but based on the fact that AMD seems to be dropping the pricing of its current Ryzen 5000-series of processors in the US market, it'll hopefully get a competitive price point.
137 Comments on AMD Said to be Releasing no Less Than Four New Ryzen 5000-Series Chips in March
Also looks like I can keep the 2600X cooler, just new compound, so no need to reinstall brackets as better cooler than what comes with 5600G.
A note on the bios for the Asrock B450 Pro 4. I was using 1.50 for my 2600X, I upgraded to 1.80 as instructed on Asrock's site (this the best version for zen+, could see much more options to play with). Then to the latest 3.xx (best version for Zen2), then to 4.80 (earliest version that supports 5xxxG chips). On 4.80 I observed nearly all advanced options on my 2600X vanished, the bios was gutted out, the IOMMU grouping was trashed as ACS was removed, I then installed 5.00 the latest public version and Asrock had added back ACS.
So the first issue was when I removed the cooler, the bracket fell back, as the AMD cooler doesnt secure in place without the heatsink attached. I took the back of the case off (old case) and there is no cut out, so had to drag the board out, put something underneath to hold the bracket up and then was able to reinstall cooler on the 5600G. After that reassembled everything.
After powering up, it was a very long post but successful, I checked the bios and observed a fair chunk of advanced options were back, but still many missing, probably half intact, most of the important ones, however no ACS. I think the G chips dont support ACS, its not official anyway but I found someone on reddit who had contacted Asrock who then told him the G chips dont support ACS. AMD need to publicly disclose this.
I contacted Asrock and pretended to have the USB bug, within a day they sent me a new bios with new AGESA version, it was considerably newer, the public 5.00 has 1.2.0.2, this one is 1.2.0.6 and bios version 5.22.
Still no ACS option however inside was two interesting options called PCIE Alternative Routing. the second one was enumeration. With only the first enabled there was no affect, but after enabling both I now have slightly better IOMMU groups then I had on my 2600X, both cpu routed PCIE slots isolated again. The bios is buggy my second hypervisor boot device isnt visible, on 5.00 it was visible but not selectable as a boot device so buggy on that as well, however luckily all storage devices appear in any booted OS.
The next problem was my NAS VM was crashing on bootup, it worked fine using a generic emulated CPU, after diagnosing each individual new CPU instruction on Zen3, I determined that the PKU instruction is the culprit, seems on BSD guests its not compatible. So I am now emulating an Epyc CPU on BSD guests, and added the missing Zen3 instructions excluding PKU.
I also booted bare metal windows did a cinebench, chip is about 36% higher score vs my 2600X.
The last problem is my monitor a 2209WA has no compatible display type with the onboard outputs, so temporarily I had to keep using the GT 1030, but have ordered a HDMI to DVI-D cable which arrived 5 minutes ago, I will put that in tomorrow.
Hope this helps anyone else who had similar ideas to me for upgrade and use case.
Info on PKU here. en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/microarchitectures/zen_3
release a single CCX variant, get all the feedback and make tweaks before going balls to the wall. 5800x3d could run cold, could run hot, could degrade fast... AMD wont know how they work in the wild until the reviews come in, and if the reviews (and then the tech masses) demand a x3D version it will happen, post tweakingOh yeah, all the current 5000 series chips are powerhouses
The 5000g are slower than the X, but they're still right up there with the best 3000 series CPU's
Insane being a key word :laugh:
Funnier and more typical is Intel releasing 12900ks in front of amd's release lol