freeagentAliexpress :)

I bought FC140 on launch day from there, PA120 had also launched and was available there at the same time, though tech sites picked it up a couple of weeks later

I love Aliexpress :cool:

Might be time to reevaluate SSD controllers if they're going to start generating that kinda heat as being inferior if they're too hot. There are very few workloads where the Gen5 NVME drives they're envisioning using that heatsink are going to make any effective difference. Perhaps we should stick with Gen4 for a few iterations until they can drop the power draw to help with that.

darkbreezeAgain though, it won't work in every situation because even a 40mm fan is often too tall to allow clearance for graphics cards etc. unless you are using a board with the M.2 near the bottom like my Hero VIII was or has multiples. I think the more important factor here is that manufacturers need to figure out how to make the controllers more heat tolerant.

True, although there are smaller than 40mm fans. Artic Freezer II has a teeny tiny fan just to creat airflow, its not much at all, but it works to keep air from stagnating. There is only so much manufacturers can do within such size constraints, adding a head spreader has been the only solution, so far.

There have never been solutions to these kinds of technical problems, until there were, so I'm hopeful that eventually engineers will figure out better materials or more efficient heatsinks that can be much, much smaller, or more efficient controllers and designs that won't require the same level of electrical activity to start with. Something will evolve eventually I'm sure.

I mean, we didn't used to have memory that could run at 1.35v at 4000mhz either, but we do now.

darkbreezeI mean, we didn't used to have memory that could run at 1.35v at 4000mhz either, but we do now.

We have memory that runs at 2000MHz 1.35v, which is 4000MT/s

You knew what I meant, and, we didn't used to have that either. Until we did.

Also, I think that if the manufacturers can use an advertised speed of 4000mhz, the rest of us can as well, whether it is technically accurate due to the reality of double data rate or not.

www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/VENGEANCE-LPX/p/CMK16GX4M2Z4000C18

CallandorWoTI think these heatsinks may be in preparation for nvme gen5, that is how I understand it anyway, they are expected to run much hotter.

A product should not be sold that needs another product to be bought to cool it. If that is the case then the original product should not be bought as it is not fit for purpose.

mamaA product should not be sold that needs another product to be bought to cool it. If that is the case then the original product should not be bought as it is not fit for purpose.

Then I guess Intel should immediately stop selling all K SKU processors?

I am looking forward to receiving these big ass heat sinks. My blacked out board needs some bling.

darkbreezeAlso, I think that if the manufacturers can use an advertised speed of 4000mhz

Does Corsair actually make anything? I think they just put their name on other peoples stuff.

darkbreezeThen I guess Intel should immediately stop selling all K SKU processors?

Tbh it would mean both AMD and Intel would have to stop selling CPU's as they both need another product to be bought to cool them. Not just K CPU's that need a Cooler buying to cool them.

freeagentDoes Corsair actually make anything? I think they just put their name on other peoples stuff.

They buy their ICs (memory chips) but then do their own design, binning, selection of PCB, solder, etc and then manufacture the actual modules....so yes there is a big difference....if all they did was buy and rebrand, then all would be coming out with basically the same sets and freqs at the same time

This is the same thing that G.Skill and most memory manufacturers do. The only ones that completely build out the whole process are the ones that manufacture DRAM like Samsung, SK Hynix, etc.

darkbreezeThen I guess Intel should immediately stop selling all K SKU processors?

Why? Pretty sure all CPUs need a cooler.

But

mamaWhy? Pretty sure all CPUs need a cooler.

Right, but most of them COME with one. Intel's unlocked SKUs do not, therefore, in reference to what initiated that comment, it is a product that needs another product TO BE BOUGHT in order to use it, as are a few of the AMD models as was mentioned. Regardless, it wasn't a very sensible comment to begin with because there are lots of products that require you to buy other products in order for them to be useful.

TiggerTbh it would mean both AMD and Intel would have to stop selling CPU's as they both need another product to be bought to cool them. Not just K CPU's that need a Cooler buying to cool them.

Actually, on the Intel side, it pretty much is. All the rest of their consumer CPU SKUs come with coolers so no additional cooler needs to be purchased. Obviously, this is not counting other non-consumer SKUs like some of the HEDT and server products.

On the AMD side, it's about half and half with most of their Ryzen 7 and 9 products requiring the purchase of an aftermarket cooler while the remainder mostly come with them, but I was specifically just referencing Intel's K SKUs, however, you are right, there are a lot more than just those which makes that initial statement about not having to buy an additional product even more off base.

Just ordered the HR-09 Pro, getting pretty good results already with idle 30C and max 38-40C when gaming on my Acidalie m.2 ssd heatsink with 4 heatpipes.

Always been a fan of this heatsink look since the time when DFI boards used similar designs.

fluxc0d3rJust ordered the HR-09 Pro, getting pretty good results already with idle 30C and max 38-40C when gaming on my Acidalie m.2 ssd heatsink with 4 heatpipes.

Always been a fan of this heatsink look since the time when DFI boards used similar designs.

What were your temps before installing the HR-09?