Friday, April 29th 2022

Microsoft May be Adding an Integrated VPN to Edge Browser

Microsoft is seemingly looking to add an integrated VPN (Virtual Private Network) to its Edge browser. A company blog post details the new Microsoft Edge Secure Network feature, which was developed in partnership with internet services provider Cloudflare. The feature will be initially deployed in Preview form, and isn't currently available in Canary and Dev releases of the browser.

According to Microsoft, Secure Network for Edge aims to increase users' security as they browse through unprotected - or less-than-ideally-protected - networks. In a day and age where hacking (in its various forms) is a daily occurrence, the company aims to help Edge users access the World Wide Web through what it describes as an encrypted, secure network. And if the partnership with Cloudflare pricked your ears at possible data collection issues, you can apparently rest assured: Cloudflare says it will only keep the required diagnostic and support data for a period of 25 hours after the last log-off. Do remember that the Edge sign-in requirement means that more of your data will be made available to Microsoft. But considering the added security and ease of use of a browser-embedded VPN and the increased privacy from all other data collection agents, most users will likely feature a net gain in privacy.
Other browsers, such as Opera, already integrate a VPN, and there are a number of extension-based alternatives for Chromium-based browsers. Microsoft's Edge Secure Network feature will be integrated into the browser, and users who sign-in to their Microsoft account on Edge can count on a "freeish" approach to billing. Microsoft says up to 1 GB of Internet traffic will be available for all users - thus standing to reason that additional traffic will be billed. That'll still likely be enough for users who want to conduct more sensitive internet operations like home-banking, but is a laughable amount for most internet usage patterns. Microsoft didn't announce pricing for the feature
Sources: Microsoft, via The Register
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71 Comments on Microsoft May be Adding an Integrated VPN to Edge Browser

#1
Sybaris_Caesar
Seems promising. Been using Cloudflare's WARP with 1.1.1.1 DNS for years now. Don’t need VPN for specific country. Just something to circumvent my shitty 3rd world government's restrictions. And WARP is fast af compared to other free VPNs and extensions.
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#2
Chrispy_
A company that profits immensely from knowing your IP, geolocation, and internet activity offering to hide your IP, geolocation, and internet activity?
I see no conflict of interest here.
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#3
ThrashZone
Hi,
Yeah MS will say anything for people to use edge of a cliff :laugh:
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#4
Steevo
Why community based distributed network anonymous surfing wasn’t a thing earlier is beyond me, before we had overtly aggressive tracking from many sites this is the ONLY viable option to retain user privacy.
The current system is like walking nude with your name painted on your chest through a mall.
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#6
claes
NGL, this is extremely confusing. MS, known data harbingers, teaming up with CF, evangelists for a “free” internet, does not make sense to me. Was there some shakeup in MS’s leadership recently?

If not, seems like a huge about-face for one or the other (although CF also charges for their premium VPN service, but that makes sense given their MO).
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#7
Steevo
claesNGL, this is extremely confusing. MS, known data harbingers, teaming up with CF, evangelists for a “free” internet, does not make sense to me. Was there some shakeup in MS’s leadership recently?

If not, seems like a huge about-face for one or the other (although CF also charges for their premium VPN service, but that makes sense given their MO).
Maybe related to the close relationship MS has with our new ministry of truth and rightspeak believers.
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#8
DeathtoGnomes
Chrispy_A company that profits immensely from knowing your IP, geolocation, and internet activity offering to hide your IP, geolocation, and internet activity?
I see no conflict of interest here.
Using a browser made by a company that sells personal information for profit, what could go wrong?
SteevoThe current system is like walking nude with your name painted on your chest through a mall.
and SSN...
claesWas there some shakeup in MS’s leadership recently?
it's a new flavor of Koolaid
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#9
claes
I appreciate all of that MS hate, but CF has been pretty great on the privacy front for a long time. Just look at their free tier DNS, and their privacy policy is pretty solid, too.

I wouldn’t recommend WARP for a lot of situations where privacy actually matters, but for the casual user it’s actually pretty good.

Disclaimer: sent from a phone using WARP’s free tier, owner of several domains “protected” by CF.

Edit: maybe I’m missing something about CF — please correct if I am!
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#10
TheUn4seen
You guys are so negative and suspicious. Remember, your private data is Microsoft's bread and butter, they will assure that no third party will be able to access it. No third party other than Microsoft themselves that is.
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#11
CosmicWanderer
DeathtoGnomesUsing a browser made by a company that sells personal information for profit, what could go wrong?


and SSN...


it's a new flavor of Koolaid
I'm guessing you're a Linux user then? Don't tell me you use Windows, or have an Android? Or even an Apple device for that matter because Apple hand out some top notch Koolaid too.

Edit: Oh wait, I just checked your system specs. Windows 10. Go figure. Lets talk about using an OS by a company that sells personal information for profit, shall we? What could go wrong.
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#13
ymbaja
SteevoThe current system is like walking nude with your name painted on your chest through a mall.
So someone please enlighten me here… while vpn has its place, you are basically trading your isp knowing all your traffic, for a vpn provider to knowing all your traffic. Which isn’t bad if you really, really trust that vpn provider. And in certain countries there are definitely reasons. That said, OS, browsers, spyware, 3rd party apps all still have a shot a grabbing all your info. I’m honestly curious if I’m missing something else magical that a vpn provides?
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#14
DeathtoGnomes
FahadI'm guessing you're a Linux user then? Don't tell me you use Windows, or have an Android? Or even an Apple device for that matter because Apple hand out some top notch Koolaid too.

Edit: Oh wait, I just checked your system specs. Windows 10. Go figure. Lets talk about using an OS by a company that sells personal information for profit, shall we? What could go wrong.
We all have our vices....

We learn to circumvent, adapt, and overcome, usually with a strong firewall.

Too many games dont play well in Linux, that may have changed recently, but I dont keep up with that.
ymbajaSo someone please enlighten me here… while vpn has its place, you are basically trading your isp knowing all your traffic, for a vpn provider to knowing all your traffic. Which isn’t bad if you really, really trust that vpn provider.
Not all VPNs providers will track you, you have to check with their privacy policy.

and then there was the Farcebook VPN....
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#15
zlobby
claesNGL, this is extremely confusing. MS, known data harbingers, teaming up with CF, evangelists for a “free” internet, does not make sense to me. Was there some shakeup in MS’s leadership recently?

If not, seems like a huge about-face for one or the other (although CF also charges for their premium VPN service, but that makes sense given their MO).
Always remember: if it is free, the product is you!
DeathtoGnomesNot all VPNs providers will track you, you have to check with their privacy policy.

and then there was the Farcebook VPN....
Mullvad comes to mind as a good example.
ymbajaSo someone please enlighten me here… while vpn has its place, you are basically trading your isp knowing all your traffic, for a vpn provider to knowing all your traffic. Which isn’t bad if you really, really trust that vpn provider. And in certain countries there are definitely reasons. That said, OS, browsers, spyware, 3rd party apps all still have a shot a grabbing all your info. I’m honestly curious if I’m missing something else magical that a vpn provides?
With over-the-counter solutions you are as good as with no solutions.

Coming even near true privacy means that you need many extra miles, effectively sactificing convenience and spending much on research.
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#16
CosmicWanderer
DeathtoGnomesWe all have our vices....

We learn to circumvent, adapt, and overcome, usually with a strong firewall.

Too many games dont play well in Linux, that may have changed recently, but I dont keep up with that.


Not all VPNs providers will track you, you have to check with their privacy policy.

and then there was the Farcebook VPN....
Just saying. You can't be that critical of a browser in terms of privacy when you use an operating system from the very same company that can (if they wanted to) collect absolutely everything you do on your PC, regardless of what browser you chose.
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#17
Totally
claesNGL, this is extremely confusing. MS, known data harbingers, teaming up with CF, evangelists for a “free” internet, does not make sense to me. Was there some shakeup in MS’s leadership recently?

If not, seems like a huge about-face for one or the other (although CF also charges for their premium VPN service, but that makes sense given their MO).
Data harbingers? Moreso than than Facebook?(and man they are getting desperate for your data) Google? Apple? And Tesla‽(oh yeah, you guys too, your car tells on you)
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#18
Jermelescu
TheUn4seenYou guys are so negative and suspicious. Remember, your private data is Microsoft's bread and butter, they will assure that no third party will be able to access it. No third party other than Microsoft themselves that is.
You're thinking of Google or Facebook.
Microsoft doesn't make that much money from "your private data".
This seems to be a good move for the absolute-average Joe that knows VPN exist. It could help them whenever they want to feel a bit safer, without having to download a separate VPN or do extra work, and 1GB should be enough for banking and things like that.
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#19
ZeppMan217
JermelescuYou're thinking of Google or Facebook.
Microsoft doesn't make that much money from "your private data".
This seems to be a good move for the absolute-average Joe that knows VPN exist. It could help them whenever they want to feel a bit safer, without having to download a separate VPN or do extra work, and 1GB should be enough for banking and things like that.
Every MS product, including Windows, comes packed with telemetry up to the gills. But sure, they "don't make much money from your data".
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#20
DeathtoGnomes
Like I was saying telemetry can be blocked.
zlobbyAlways remember: if it is free, the product is you!
The most forgotten reminder ever.
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#21
claes
zlobbyAlways remember: if it is free, the product is you!
Duh. If you’re going to troll me at least tell me something IDK… Cloudflare obvs benefits from their free offerings. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t be able to charge so much to their paying customers.

You’re not wrong that the consumer is being exploited in the exchange, but that’s the whole econimic basis here — how much does the consumer benefit from the exchange of consumer data?

I don’t understand how CF, whose privacy policies and commitment to privacy are pretty strong, benefits from this, while it weakens MS data extractivism. Maybe I’m missing something, but it’s not as obvious as you make it seem.
TotallyData harbingers? Moreso than than Facebook?(and man they are getting desperate for your data) Google? Apple? And Tesla‽(oh yeah, you guys too, your car tells on you)
Bootlick all you’d like, but I’d rather not. Privacy invasion is inevitable in any social contract, but not all actors are equivalent. Comparing MS and CF to Facebook really misunderstands how consumer data aggregation works.
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#22
R-T-B
claesBootlick all you’d like, but I’d rather not. Privacy invasion is inevitable in any social contract, but not all actors are equivalent. Comparing MS and CF to Facebook really misunderstands how consumer data aggregation works.
QFT.
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#23
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Chrispy_A company that profits immensely from knowing your IP, geolocation, and internet activity offering to hide your IP, geolocation, and internet activity?
I see no conflict of interest here.
Googles the same way so no thanks
DeathtoGnomesLike I was saying telemetry can be blocked.


The most forgotten reminder ever.
Just for an update to re-enable it,
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#24
lexluthermiester
Chrispy_A company that profits immensely from knowing your IP, geolocation, and internet activity offering to hide your IP, geolocation, and internet activity?
I see no conflict of interest here.
Right? Really, what could go wrong?
RaevenlordMicrosoft didn't announce pricing for the feature
They could offer it for free and I would never use it.
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#25
Tsukiyomi91
If MS is the only one who can mine and harvest your data, then it shouldn't be much problems, right? Right?
That aside, having more browsers with built-in VPN is somewhat a good thing, I guess. =/
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