According to sources close to Igor Wallossek from Igor's lab, Intel's upcoming Arc Alchemist discrete graphics card lineup is in trouble. As the anonymous sources state, certain add-in board (AIB) partners are having difficulty adopting the third GPU manufacturer into their offerings. As we learn, AIBs are sitting on a pile of NVIDIA and AMD GPUs. This pile is decreasing in price daily and losing value, so it needs to be moved quickly. Secondly, Intel is reportedly suggesting AIBs ship cards to OEMs and system integrators to start the market spread of the new Arc dGPUs. This business model is inherently lower margin compared to selling GPUs directly to consumers.
Last but not least, it is reported that at least one major AIB is stopping the production of custom Arc GPUs due to quality concerns. What this means is yet to be uncovered, and we have to wait and see which AIB (or AIBs) is stepping out of the game. All of this suggests that the new GPU lineup is on the verge of extinction, even before it has launched. However, we are sure that the market will adapt and make a case for the third GPU maker. Of course, these predictions should be taken with a grain of salt, and we await more information to confirm those issues.
133 Comments on Intel Arc Board Partners are Reportedly Stopping Production, Encountering Quality Issues
They were probably bribed to not finish :D
One thing that's important to keep in mind; the lessons Intel have learned from running this generation of GPUs will probably not be implemented in their next generation, but the one following, as their next gen is probably in later design stages by now. Assuming these claims are true at all, of course.
Anyways, I'm puzzled over this claim, as AIBs are usually not selling volumes to OEMs, so asking AIBs to sell to OEMs seems like a strange request, unless the AIBs have already made the cards and "can't" sell them. Nvidia and AMD usually sell reference designs to OEMs directly, as there is usually no reason for an AIB to get involved in those "bare bone" cards. And as we know, OEM GPUs are high volume and low margin products.
the amount of people that buy dGPU's is incomprehensibly small compared to the volumes that dell and hp move
Pc upgrades are dead last for me So does the toilet water rotate in the opposite direction? Do you drive on the wrong side of the road? ;) I disagree, intel wouldn't have caused gpu prices to change as they would have marked theirs where both AMD and nvidia have theirs, due to the time they engineered this trash just to recover their losses.
This to me is turning into another i740, or larrabee-crappy drivers as proven by the intel igps, aka a never start/ Dead on Arrival
I'm guessing they don't have enough GPUs to do so with whatever fault has popped up, and want those cards meant for retail to fill in the gap?
I do hope Intel keep up the tempo because I feel they have crossed a significant milestone to deliver a working dGPU where I think performance may not be great, but still decent, letdown mostly due to driver stability which should not be impossible to fix.
I always thought and still think the Fury X is one of the coolest cards ever release, small, black/stealthy, watercooled, HBM memory and with that always the exception when a game said it needed 6 gb of Vram, they always added that the Fury X would work as well because of its fast memory.
and Vega 56 atleast was a superior price/performance card compared to Nvidia's equivalent, yes the 64 was not worth what they asked sure but the 56 was a fine option.
so I never understood or understand this retroactive negativity it gets.
If they want to continue on this course they will end up relying on low margin high quantity products to make money. The high end desktop and server is being consumed by Apple ARM AMD and Nvidia.
I seriously doubt Intel will be able to get their shit together.
1,5~2 years too late, zero profit margin, built on rare HBM and no future roadmap in gaming ;)
Sounds remarkably like Arc, sans HBM. Heck it even shares the early availability woes! There wasn't anything to lose with Intel, we didn't have anything yet. Except Raja showing us chips. And more chips.
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www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_vega_marketing_takes_shots_at_nvidia_s_volta_architecture/2
This wasn't just a GPU man. This was 'an uprising' - 'a revolution', it was the mobilization of gamers worldwide to finally show team green what's what.
This was the culmination of efforts post RX480, Raja's favorite dropped baby:
They excel at mining, but they had issues with for example DX11 titles. Nvidia was just faster and it took AMD quite some driver revisions to get it on par.
Now the exact same thing is happening with Intel and it's arc lineup. They are all left-overs from a computational graphics card line. They do provide graphics but usually at 50% higher power consumption compared to the rest. On top of that there's quite some driver issues going on which just makes the card a complete gamble when you buy and try it. The delays where simple revisions because the card just did'nt perform as expected, or did'nt meet quality targets. Raja is'nt a bad individual, i just think he needs to stop doing the obvious because it's not working.
AMD redesigned their GPU completely with RDNA and with succes. Raja left prior and it was proberly the best thing for them to let him go.
www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2518-nvidia-gtx-1060-review-and-benchmark-vs-rx-480/page-3
And it and the Vega are still viable to use, as opposed to the arc A###.
Not a dig just an observation.
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Intel on the other hand does the opposite. Put some big duck swingers with attitude and see the results. I honestly wonder how their board allows for this? It looks to me that the board is none the wiser.