CallandorWoTI honestly was expecting better considering Intel does have world class engineers, I guess GPU's are much different beast even for that caliber of people... a shame... we really needed the extra competition.

Well Rome wasn’t built in a day. They have the money and manpower. They will catch up eventually if they stick to it? Be nice if there was another big player in the x86 market also.

bugDid these get a proper release date? So we can have proper reviews (not to mention products), instead of leaks?

www.techpowerup.com/297868/intel-arc-a380-desktop-graphics-card-pre-orders-open-in-usa-for-139-usd

The screenshot shows ETA 8/22 but I haven't heard anything about Intel revealing an official USA release date

TheinsanegamerNSo sucking for years on end is perfectly acceptable for AMD

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I never said that.

Quite to the contrary, I've raked AMD over the coals for Vega being rubbish, and for their drivers being rubbish when RDNA1 launched, and for being unable to implement a proper memory controller on Zen, and for still having USB issues on AM4 that won't be resolved before AM5 arrives. I've raked Intel over the coals for failing 10nm completely, and for 10th and 11th gen being overpriced rubbish, and for their inability to make a single socket last longer than 2 years, and for their stupidity in refusing to make Optane and Thunderbolt royalty-free. I've raked NVIDIA over the coals for producing midrange GPUs with 12GB of memory they cannot use, and for high-end GPUs that use more power than the Sun while only being marginally faster than their competitors, and for being overpriced.

I have ZERO loyalty to ANY company. The only thing I care about is whether the product they deliver today is good, or at least good enough. Past performance is no indicator of future performance because people come and go at companies, and different people make different decisions, and some of those decisions are so stupid those people should be shot into the Sun, and others are so brilliant that the rest of the industry sits around going "why didn't we think of that?".

So don't ever, ever claim that I've made excuses for one particular company over another. Because I haven't, and that's both deeply offensive as well as dishonest.

Intel coming in hot and heavy to that 80% midrange market on Steam Hardware Survey.

TheinsanegamerNI mean, if you consider that the A380 is slightly faster then the RX 6400 that AMD shat out, for a lower price, technically intel already matches the industry standard on its first attempt.

On what planet is the A380 faster than the RX 6400? Because it's not this one, even if you include the small handful of DX12/Vulkan titles where it punches above its weight.



Hell, it isn't even reliably faster even if you only look at DX12/Vulkan titles, and of course its performance in DX11 and other older APIs is generally a joke.

If ARC A580 (in 16 Xe cores scenario) has 128bit bus it shouldn't be able to match RTX 3050 in a TPU setup logically.
And with RX 6600 starting at $259 they can't price it more than $219 really, too low for starting price of a 400+mm² die.
Already A770 & A750 have 256bit 8GB implementations according to rumors, doubling A580's memory bandwidth (128->256bit) it will give them near +20% extra performance but still Intel can't price it more than $249 since the still faster RX6600 is starting at $259!

AretakOn what planet is the A380 faster than the RX 6400? Because it's not this one, even if you include the small handful of DX12/Vulkan titles where it punches above its weight.

hell, it isn't even reliably faster even if you only look at DX12/Vulkan titles, and of course its performance in DX11 and other older APIs is generally a joke.

Not to mention, the titles that these cards are most meant for, are an the AMD 6400's favor, Fortnite, CS GO, PUBG, Rainbow Six so that weighs even heavier.
And nobody would ever recommend anyone get the rx6400....

On bright side, Intel now properly support Vulkan. Yay!

while this is good news (somewhat), Intel should focus more on improving the driver for the GPU rather than making a scene imho.

Tsukiyomi91while this is good news (somewhat), Intel should focus more on improving the driver for the GPU rather than making a scene imho.

I'm pretty sure they can do both. Driver team is different people, after all.

Chipzilla (Intel :laugh:) already updating Arc graphic drivers

TheinsanegamerNThis could have just as easily applied to AMD in 2016 with polaris. It takes them 2-3 years to hammer out their drivers. Why does everyone assume intel would do it immediately? $$$ =! experience.

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TheinsanegamerNAMD get sa lot of credit for the performance of polaris but many forget how awful the drivers were for the first 2-3 years.

How many times are you going to repeat that lie about Polaris having major driver issues?

TheinsanegamerNSo sucking for years on end is perfectly acceptable for AMD but not intel.

"Sucking for years" (which is, having no mid-high range competitor to Turing), when your company is financially starving and graphics department specifically only gets money to barely stay alive is perfectly acceptable.
Especially given how quickly was AMD able to re-bound its GPU lineup, RDNA2 is hands down disruptive.

"Sucking for years", when you can have your staff use $100 banknotes as toilet paper in bathrooms and still remain hell of a profitable is... not perfectly acceptable. In fact, it hints at that something important is very wrong within the company.

On top of it, A380 is barely "OK" in a lower end market, that is actually never been so terrible.

3050, itself a terrible card that is 20%+ behind 6600 that happens to be cheaper, is what, roughly 2 times faster? Ew.


I didn't expect Intel to roll out a high end card.
I thought good mid range card was not a given, but certainly a possibility.

It is beyond imagination that all that they were able to roll out is garbage tier, not even low tier.