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Intel's Raja Koduri Refutes Rumors About Company Cancelling Arc Graphics

Sep 12th, 2022 04:01 Discuss (81 Comments)

Intel's accelerated computing group head Raja Koduri, who heads the team behind the Arc "Alchemist" graphics, on late-Sunday, refuted rumors about the company shutting down the Arc graphics product line. Responding to a question to that effect on Twitter, Koduri tweeted "we are shrugging about these rumors as well. They don't help the team working hard to bring these to market, they don't help the PC graphics community..one must wonder, who do they help?..we are still in first gen and yes we had more obstacles than planned to overcome, but we persisted."

Rumors about Intel dropping the axe on Arc have been around for some time now, after repeated delays in getting the products to market, limited regional launches; and gathered steam as Intel closed down the Optane Memory business last quarter. Last week, after Intel presented a less-than-perfect outlook for its processor business hinted that it could exit "other" unprofitable businesses.

Source: Raja Koduri (Twitter)

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81 Comments on Intel's Raja Koduri Refutes Rumors About Company Cancelling Arc Graphics

Haile Selassie

Whoever though Intel is going to cancel Arc needs a reality check, even if it 'fails' in the eyes of the consumers many times over. This is all-in project. This is not 1996 and i740 anymore.

timta2

It's only a short matter of time.

mama

I genuinely hope they push through. They must have expected a poor outcome from the first generation but it will not benefit consumers in the long run if they pull out of the discrete graphics market. Actually, you probably need to be in the market to pull out... Problem solved!!!!

AusWolf

Haile SelassieWhoever though Intel is going to cancel Arc needs a reality check, even if it 'fails' in the eyes of the consumers many times over. This is all-in project. This is not 1996 and i740 anymore.

Exactly. Why would anyone in their right mind cancel a multimillion USD project before fruition?

Edit: I love the picture with the loosely connected power plugs! :roll:

john_

Considering that year after year the GPU becomes even more important than before, if Intel cancels ARC, it will be a suicidal move. They need the retail market, not just the server market. They will bleed money, they will hear many non flatering comments for their GPUs this year, but in 4-5 years, even if they are still behind, they will start making money from this market. Huge money, considering their ties with OEMs.

AusWolf

john_Considering that year after year the GPU becomes even more important than before, if Intel cancels ARC, it will be a suicidal move. They need the retail market, not just the server market. They will bleed money, they will hear many non flatering comments for their GPUs this year, but in 4-5 years, even if they are still behind, they will start making money from this market. Huge money, considering their ties with OEMs.

Even the worst case scenario, which is that Arc is a huge flop, and Intel only earns back a fraction of their investment is still better than cancelling the whole thing, not even having the chance to earn back anything.

Vayra86

Haile SelassieWhoever though Intel is going to cancel Arc needs a reality check, even if it 'fails' in the eyes of the consumers many times over. This is all-in project. This is not 1996 and i740 anymore.

I hope you're right, its what they need to succeed. Complete dedication.

AusWolfExactly. Why would anyone in their right mind cancel a multimillion USD project before fruition?

Edit: I love the picture with the loosely connected power plugs! :roll:

How else would you get that GPU to 'arc'? :D

taka

Something is sure going on at Intel, Raja has been put outside all official anouncements and only give a few words on Twiter. But only time will tell the real story with Intel GPU's.

Dirt Chip

Some tend to to project their own feeling on a giant company, thinking that behave the same as a sole person..
That is, if you having a rough start then best is to stop and not even try.
But those people don`t have, obviously, the same cash reserve that can keep them afloat in 'bad times' and none of the R&D experience that take into consideration most of the problems involving making up new tech.

To my opinion, Intel will evaluate their ARC business after 'Celestial' lunch (that is ARC 3rd gen), not befor.
Reson- only ARC 4th gen will introduce a new architecture -"Xe Next HPG".

#10

Ferrum Master

Well not the first time he had no balls telling the obvious.

Last time he left AMD it was due some religious sabbatical vocation? Sure... Stuff brews...

ARC turned out to be VIA Chrome.

#11

liquefytherich

They won't cancel Arc outright, but the rumors of Enthusiast/High End Discrete Gaming GPUs being cancelled for the foreseeable future is much more plausible. I definitely see Intel going hard on Enterprise and HPC Arc and even making Arc its new integrated graphics hardware but I definitely believe that they're at least planning on cancelling discrete high end Arc beyond some very limited production Battlemage parts until the driver situation is sorted.

#12

AusWolf

liquefytherichThey won't cancel Arc outright, but the rumors of Enthusiast/High End Discrete Gaming GPUs being cancelled for the foreseeable future is much more plausible. I definitely see Intel going hard on Enterprise and HPC Arc and even making Arc its new integrated graphics hardware but I definitely believe that they're at least planning on cancelling discrete high end Arc beyond some very limited production Battlemage parts until the driver situation is sorted.

They can't cancel high-end Arc because it never existed. The top of the line A770 is said to be positioned between the 3060 and 3060 Ti, only with more VRAM.

#13

ZoneDymo

if Intel cancels ARC them might as well cancel Intel alltogether

#14

Aretak

A "refutation" where he doesn't actually firmly confirm or deny anything. Glad we got that sorted then.

#15

Mack4285

Intel has been profitable for decades. Surely it can't be a financial decision to cancel ARC. It will take a couple of more years of experience to succeed and stabilize along Nvidia/AMD. But executives and stock holders aren't in this for the longer run. It is always about short term profit.

#16

ModEl4

"one must wonder, who do these rumors help?"
Indeed good question!
The next question should regard which publications/channels spreading these rumors...

#17

Imouto

Best thing they could do is letting Raja go and starting all over.

If only there was a precedent of anyone doing so and being successful thereafter.

#18

kane nas

Haile SelassieWhoever though Intel is going to cancel Arc needs a reality check, even if it 'fails' in the eyes of the consumers many times over. This is all-in project. This is not 1996 and i740 anymore.

#19

Unregistered

Makes sense to kill it, they missed launching their GPUs when people needed them, the drivers are awful despite having long experience making iGPUs, the GPU division would just drain resources for nothing.
They should focus on CPUs, and use all the time spent developing GPUs to improve their iGPUs, I can see Intel offering upscaling for free or accelerating Ray Tracing...etc

#20

GunShot

If we were honest, we would admit and put on blast to whom are spreading these fake news hyper-jelly garbage vids/articles about Arc's demise ~ ahem ~ MLID, Tweak Town, I-Labs, etc. ~ are still jelly about Intel choosing Linus for its Arc exclusive. :laugh:

#21

TheoneandonlyMrK

Well he would say that wouldn't he, he has millions of chip's made yet to sell.

#22

ModEl4

I'm picturing right now AMD's marketing team wishing Navi33 was earlier in order to compare performance & die size vs ARC770 (both at 6nm).
I'm not worry, I'm sure some time in the not so distant future the usual suspects will have this comparison in their sites/channels preaching how ARC future is doomed!

#23

Denver

I think they should focus on the server and OEM market where they have some chance to compete. No one in their right mind is going to buy an Arc to play games with instead of a red or green team GPU, plus the situation will get worse when the next generation arrives.

#24

zlobby

AusWolfExactly. Why would anyone in their right mind cancel a multimillion USD project before fruition?

Edit: I love the picture with the loosely connected power plugs! :roll:

Typical intel engiurs and electishins.

#25

lexluthermiester

btarunrIntel's accelerated computing group head Raja Koduri, who heads the team behind the Arc "Alchemist" graphics, on late-Sunday, refuted rumors about the company shutting down the Arc graphics product line.

Put another way, these rumors are stupidly without merit. Only people who use their head for a seat cushion would believe them.

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