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$700-800 Ideal Price for GeForce RTX 4080: TechPowerUp Poll Surveying 11,000 Respondents

The ideal price for the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 "Ada" graphics card is around USD $700 to $800, according to results from a recent TechPowerUp Front-page poll surveying our readers. Our poll "How much would you pay for RTX 4080 at most?" received over 11,000 responses. At the number 1 spot with 22% of the vote is $800, closely followed by $700. Together, this range represents 44% of the voters. 14% of our readers think $600 is an ideal price, followed by "less than $400" at 13%. 9% think $500 seems fair, followed by 7% willing to spend as much as $900. 5% is happy to spend $1,100. 2% or less feel that the current $1,200 MSRP is justified or are willing to spend more than MSRP. There's more to a majority finding sanity with the $700 to $800 price-range.

With NVIDIA cancelling the RTX 4080 12 GB, the RTX 4080 16 GB became the only SKU to bear the name "RTX 4080." This $1,200 MSRP GeForce RTX 4080 is the successor to the RTX 3080, which debuted at $700, marking a $500 MSRP increase generation-over-generation (or +71%). You begin to see why most readers prefer the $700-800 range to be the ideal MSRP, and are willing to tolerate a $100 increase. For even more context, the RTX 3080 "Ampere" launched at the same $700 MSRP that its successor, the RTX 2080 "Turing" launched at. The GTX 1080 "Pascal" came out at $600 ($700 for the Founders Edition), which explains the interest for $600 in our poll.
And then there's a sizable chunk of our readers who simply seem disillusioned with GPU pricing, and feel that either $500 to $400, or something lower, is the max that they would be willing to pay for the RTX 4080. Can NVIDIA even break-even at such prices? NVIDIA's own quarterly financial results reference vague margins as high as 60% (not specific to any product, but as a general rule, margins tend to be proportionate to MSRP, with the higher priced products generally having a fatter margin). At 50% to 60% margins for its $1,200 MSRP, we'd be in the neighborhood of $500 to $600. We've seen examples in the past of NVIDIA cutting its prices in sharp response to competitive AMD products, with both brands fiercely locked in price-wars, and their products selling at less than half their MSRPs. So a $500 to $600 price for the RTX 4080 still seems possible on paper, and cannot be easily dismissed as "impossible."

On the other hand, prices have been going up everywhere: we've got inflation, higher prices for gas and power, and no doubt, TSMC is charging more for a 4 nm wafer than what Samsung has been charging for their 8 nm technology. NVIDIA was also Samsung's biggest customer—today there's plenty of competition for allocation on TSMC's latest and greatest nodes. Apple, Qualcomm, AMD, everybody wants their chips made on the best process in the world, so prices will end up higher for that reason, too.
A tiny fraction of our readers thinks that the $1,200 MSRP is fair, or is willing to pay more than $1,400. This probably aligns with the demographic that is actually buying the RTX 4080 at its current prices—or are willing to spend top-dollar for any other high-end graphics card. The poll results indicate that NVIDIA will be able to push more volume by lowering the price, but given the current inventory levels of GeForce 30 cards it could be that they rather be content selling the RTX 4080 at ≥$1,200 at high margins to a tiny fraction of people.
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140 Comments on $700-800 Ideal Price for GeForce RTX 4080: TechPowerUp Poll Surveying 11,000 Respondents

#126
MentalAcetylide
FluffmeisterClearly a PERFECT opportunity for AMD to pull the rug from under Nvidia's feet an crush them and steal tons of market share with their $650 RX 7900 XTX and $575 Radeon RX 7900 XT.
I really don't see that happening anytime soon. If anything, Nvidia would just get pushed more into the workstation/rendering market since a lot of people still depend on Iray, which is basically "Nvidia-only" and cannot be used on AMD graphics cards. However, for PC gaming, that could be a different story. Nevertheless, do keep in mind that prices are going up on "everything", so PC gaming could be taking a hit as well, so both AMD & Nvidia could be affected.
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#127
mechtech
Hmmmm out of curiosity I put in the ATi 9800 pro when it was first released and basically top dog
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#128
Unregistered
Vayra86'This is fine', you say. It's clearly not. Its like all things in life; a world of haves and have nots, is a world in perpetual conflict. That's what you see here; when the gap between these two groups becomes 'unfair', is when things spiral out of control.
Fine is a relative term. Tech has always been the haves and have nots and the economic system modern society was built on running as poorly as it always does.

I fully see the economy collapsing as it is within a few decades, especially the US, unless something drastic happens. The cost of living keeps growing relative to common wage and the mindset of the people just gets greedier. The concept of "economic growth" is a horrible mindset to have and the US is built on it. Everything is running on fumes at this point and it's been getting worse per generation.

It seems to get this way because the average person is not bright enough to see it or do anything about it. Everyone focused on their own little bubble of life, even when that bubble will collapse with the rest.

So yes, this is fine.
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#129
Chrispy_
mechtechHmmmm out of curiosity I put in the ATi 9800 pro when it was first released and basically top dog
Amusingly that's exactly what the 6900XT currently sells for, new.
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#130
medi01
hsew4N must be really expensive
65% margins planned by The Leather Man should also come from somewhere.
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#131
TheoneandonlyMrK
The people already decided, Nvidia are Dick's.
We don't need others apologies on they're behalf.

We need GPU in better price points.
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#132
wEeViLz
It appears there were 1511 AMD fan boys that voted in this poll.
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#133
b1k3rdude
Bomby569there is no import charges inside the EU, vat changes just by the difference, and the warranty is exactly the same, 2 years and can be claimed anywhere inside the EU
But there is when your outside it, or anywhere else in the world fella... :-|
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#134
N3M3515
MindweaverI will not pay the increased prices for the 4xxx cards. These prices are crazy for GPU's.
You just paid increased price ($585) for a RTX 3070 that launched at $500 2 years ago. Meanwhile, the RX 6800 XT is at $550, giving +26% more raster performance at 1440p and even slightly more RAYTRACING performance at 1440p (at least according to TPU charts).
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#135
Chrispy_
wEeViLzIt appears there were 1511 AMD fan boys that voted in this poll.
How do you get that number? Just curious.
There will be AMD and Nvidia fanboys in any poll, for sure - but 1511 is oddly specific.
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#136
N3M3515
Chrispy_How do you get that number? Just curious.
There will be AMD and Nvidia fanboys in any poll, for sure - but 1511 is oddly specific.
The $400 crowd
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#137
Chrispy_
N3M3515The $400 crowd
You mean 1533?

Edit:
I've worked it out. The bar chart and the pie chart values don't match up....
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#138
terroralpha
no one cares about the "polls". there is no way to tell how many people responding to it would actually buy one even if the price was $700.

the only polls nvidia cares about is how many cards they sell. right now they are selling every 4090 they can make, and people have been paying as much as $4000 (before sales tax/VAT!!) on the after market for the 4090. and while the 4080 isn't completely sold out everywhere, it's still selling a lot more inventory than a $1200-$1500 GPU should sell.

if you want nvidia and AMD to drop prices, stop buying these cards. i've seen some people buy 4080s and 4090s for 1080p monitors. some of you need to get your heads examined.
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#139
prehensileman
700-800 range to be the ideal MSRP? Would that be in the "we can just print more Euros for inflation" or the verneralble Sterling, because it sounds like to me that your doing an avert for the money buggering B's. No the max price should be 50% of the manufactering price, around 400 US dollars At the moment, executive privelage makes up 80% of current retail prices and that includes quarterly bonuses, bragging rights and other swag
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