Tuesday, November 29th 2022

$700-800 Ideal Price for GeForce RTX 4080: TechPowerUp Poll Surveying 11,000 Respondents

The ideal price for the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 "Ada" graphics card is around USD $700 to $800, according to results from a recent TechPowerUp Front-page poll surveying our readers. Our poll "How much would you pay for RTX 4080 at most?" received over 11,000 responses. At the number 1 spot with 22% of the vote is $800, closely followed by $700. Together, this range represents 44% of the voters. 14% of our readers think $600 is an ideal price, followed by "less than $400" at 13%. 9% think $500 seems fair, followed by 7% willing to spend as much as $900. 5% is happy to spend $1,100. 2% or less feel that the current $1,200 MSRP is justified or are willing to spend more than MSRP. There's more to a majority finding sanity with the $700 to $800 price-range.

With NVIDIA cancelling the RTX 4080 12 GB, the RTX 4080 16 GB became the only SKU to bear the name "RTX 4080." This $1,200 MSRP GeForce RTX 4080 is the successor to the RTX 3080, which debuted at $700, marking a $500 MSRP increase generation-over-generation (or +71%). You begin to see why most readers prefer the $700-800 range to be the ideal MSRP, and are willing to tolerate a $100 increase. For even more context, the RTX 3080 "Ampere" launched at the same $700 MSRP that its successor, the RTX 2080 "Turing" launched at. The GTX 1080 "Pascal" came out at $600 ($700 for the Founders Edition), which explains the interest for $600 in our poll.
And then there's a sizable chunk of our readers who simply seem disillusioned with GPU pricing, and feel that either $500 to $400, or something lower, is the max that they would be willing to pay for the RTX 4080. Can NVIDIA even break-even at such prices? NVIDIA's own quarterly financial results reference vague margins as high as 60% (not specific to any product, but as a general rule, margins tend to be proportionate to MSRP, with the higher priced products generally having a fatter margin). At 50% to 60% margins for its $1,200 MSRP, we'd be in the neighborhood of $500 to $600. We've seen examples in the past of NVIDIA cutting its prices in sharp response to competitive AMD products, with both brands fiercely locked in price-wars, and their products selling at less than half their MSRPs. So a $500 to $600 price for the RTX 4080 still seems possible on paper, and cannot be easily dismissed as "impossible."

On the other hand, prices have been going up everywhere: we've got inflation, higher prices for gas and power, and no doubt, TSMC is charging more for a 4 nm wafer than what Samsung has been charging for their 8 nm technology. NVIDIA was also Samsung's biggest customer—today there's plenty of competition for allocation on TSMC's latest and greatest nodes. Apple, Qualcomm, AMD, everybody wants their chips made on the best process in the world, so prices will end up higher for that reason, too.
A tiny fraction of our readers thinks that the $1,200 MSRP is fair, or is willing to pay more than $1,400. This probably aligns with the demographic that is actually buying the RTX 4080 at its current prices—or are willing to spend top-dollar for any other high-end graphics card. The poll results indicate that NVIDIA will be able to push more volume by lowering the price, but given the current inventory levels of GeForce 30 cards it could be that they rather be content selling the RTX 4080 at ≥$1,200 at high margins to a tiny fraction of people.
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140 Comments on $700-800 Ideal Price for GeForce RTX 4080: TechPowerUp Poll Surveying 11,000 Respondents

#26
TheDeeGee
I voted $900 mainly due to inflation correction, i'd say between 800 and 900 is fair.
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#27
Zaqq
The more interesting survey would be "how many % of your monthly income are you willing to spend on a graphics card"...
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#28
loracle706
600 Dollars must be the max price for a high end gpu,, or just buy a ps5/xbox one and a pc with just igpu for multimedia or work, thats all, and they can put their expensive cards in their asses, all that shit is because of 4k 60fps/ rt bullshit, if not, a 3060ti do the job with 1080p/60fps+ max graphics, for 350/400 dollars, fucking thiefs.
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#29
phil995511
Nvidia takes you for fools, change dairy...
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#30
Bomby569
April 2017 - today
Ryzen 5 1600 - 220$
Ryzen 5 7600 - 229$
with inflation it should be 267$

May 2016 - today
Nvidia 1080 - 599$
Nvidia 4080 - 1199$
with inflation it should be 743$

It certainly has nothing to do with Moore's Law or inflation. Stop using inflation as an excuse
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#31
Zaqq
loracle706600 Dollars must be the max price for a high end gpu,, or just buy a ps5/xbox one and a pc with just igpu for multimedia or work, thats all, and they can put their expensive cards in their asses, all that shit is because of 4k 60fps/ rt bullshit, if not, a 3060ti do the job with 1080p/60fps+ max graphics, for 350/400 dollars, fucking thiefs.
In the end people are voting with their wallets...
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#32
ZeroFM
TheDeeGeeI voted $900 mainly due to inflation correction, i'd say between 800 and 900 is fair.
Taiwan inflation is 2.7% . Voted 800 is max for this gpu
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#33
Helper
ZeroFMTaiwan inflation is 2.7% . Voted 800 is max for this gpu
That's dollars, it's not counting from Taiwan's currency. You have to do it their way if you're counting in on inflation. In that case, the card would likely be closer to 500 than it is to 800. Unless I'm misunderstanding something.
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#34
Zaqq
Bomby569April 2017 - today
Ryzen 5 1600 - 220$
Ryzen 5 7600 - 229$
with inflation it should be 267$

May 2016 - today
Nvidia 1080 - 599$
Nvidia 4080 - 1199$
with inflation it should be 743$

It certainly has nothing to do with Moore's Law or inflation. Stop using inflation as an excuse
Ryzen 5 1600 has ~60% of performance of Ryzen 5 7600 in 1440p
Nvidia 1080 has ~30% of performance of Nvidia 4080 in 1440p
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#35
usiname
ZaqqRyzen 5 1600 has ~60% of performance of Ryzen 5 7600 in 1440p
Nvidia 1080 has ~30% of performance of Nvidia 4080 in 1440p
Ryzen 1600 has 40% of the performance of 7600x in applications and 40-50% in 1080p, meanwhile the price rised with <5%
Huang wont give you free 4080 for misleading the people to belive that the price of 4080 is justified
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#36
ThrashZone
TheDeeGeeI voted $900 mainly due to inflation correction, i'd say between 800 and 900 is fair.
Hi,
Yep I did 900.us because of sells tax/ and possible shipping costs as well.

They need a new results diagram the ball is terribly rotated and sloppy looking with all the crossing lines on the top :laugh:
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#37
Helper
usinameRyzen 1600 has 40% of the performance of 7600x in applications and 40-50% in 1080p, meanwhile the price rised with <5%
Huang wont give you free 4080 for misleading the people to belive that the price of 4080 is justified
Does it matter though? When you're cooking GPUs in a kitchen with a leather jacket you are nothing but capitalism...
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#38
Mindweaver
Moderato®™
HelperShe probably doesn't, whole lot of hobbies outside of the realms of glaring in front of a display. Just pointing out. :)
Yeah, I probably wanted the upgrade more than her.. lol Between Minecraft and roblox her old R9 270 was fast enough. lol It paired well with her (my old) Ryzen 5 2600. She needed that upgrade from her i7 4770k. But because "she" needed the upgrade I had to settle for a i7 12700k.. Do you see the sacrifices that I have to do for my family.. It's a tough life but it's what us dads do.. HAHA Plus, it's easier to tell the wife the kids need an upgrade for their pc over I need this. lol This Knowledge is crucial for young dads! I'm just here to spread it. ;)
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#39
Unregistered
700~800$ real price WITH TAX or any other cost, would be an acceptable price.
Now it costs over a 3090ti, more than 100% increase over the 3080, some models are only 150$ less than a 4090.
#40
Hofnaerrchen
We'll see how stubborn nVIDIA will insist on it's current pricing when 7900XTX/XT launches. If AMD is at least somewhat competitive I doubt the price will not be lowered - unless nVIDIA and their shareholders are fine with cards sitting on shelves.
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#41
Chomiq
ZeroFMTaiwan inflation is 2.7% . Voted 800 is max for this gpu
Lucky you, 17.9% in Poland.

Combine that with 23% tax and greedy retailers and you have one of the most expensive GPU's in EU.
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#42
Chrispy_
I mean it's not rocket science, is it.

It's significantly slower than the $999 AMD 7900XTX according to AMD's own numbers, and it's only ~40% faster than the 3080 which you can easily pick up on ebay for ~$500. They go from $450-600 depending on model, but realistically there are A TON of them being dumped on the used market right now.

I have a feeling the 7900XT will be poor value, relative to the XTX but that AMD are targeting the 4080 specifically. I'd say it's a much better value at $300 less for potentially similar performance, but there's nothing "value" about a $900 GPU.
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#43
ZeroFM
ChomiqLucky you, 17.9% in Poland.

Combine that with 23% tax and greedy retailers and you have one of the most expensive GPU's in EU.
Ho ho neighbor :D Lithuania-Alytus . Inflation now is 22%. Cheapest 4080 from trusty shop is 1531€
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#44
BSim500
Fun fact - If you were to apply "GPU's should cost +60% more because they are +60% faster than last gen" consistently from nVidia's early RIVA TNT2's through to today, then today's average GPU would cost $3m. Likewise, RAM also used to cost £100/MB at once point. Using same "nVidia pricing logic", 2x 16GB sticks of DDR4 'should' cost £3.2m. We should also be thankful that nVidia doesn't make storage devices or this chart would be a flat horizontal line that never dipped below $1m per GB, at which point modern 1TB SSD's would cost $1bn each...

Back in the real world, the whole point of progress is "tech gets better at same price", not "price ends up completely divorced from reality because 'tech improved as expected'".
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#45
Chomiq
ZeroFMHo ho neighbor :D Lithuania-Alytus . Inflation now is 22%. Cheapest 4080 from trusty shop is 1531€

€1454
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#46
Bomby569
ZeroFMHo ho neighbor :D Lithuania-Alytus . Inflation now is 22%. Cheapest 4080 from trusty shop is 1531€
You guys are in the EU just buy it in any other country. Some even do free shipping (not sure in those eastern parts but should be the same). Not that you can find much cheaper for what i see
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#47
Chomiq
Bomby569You guys are in the EU just buy it in any other country. Some even do free shipping (not sure in those eastern parts but should be the same). Not that you can find much cheaper for what i see
Us guys in EU still have to deal with stores that do not ship to other EU countries.
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#48
shovenose
Chrispy_I mean it's not rocket science, is it.

It's significantly slower than the $999 AMD 7900XTX according to AMD's own numbers, and it's only ~40% faster than the 3080 which you can easily pick up on ebay for ~$500. They go from $450-600 depending on model, but realistically there are A TON of them being dumped on the used market right now.

I have a feeling the 7900XT will be poor value, relative to the XTX but that AMD are targeting the 4080 specifically. I'd say it's a much better value at $300 less for potentially similar performance, but there's nothing "value" about a $900 GPU.
I’m strongly considering either a 7900xt or 7900xtx once the reviews come out. I need something better than my rx6600 now that I have a 4k monitor. I agree purely based on specs and the numbers we have so far the XT at $899 is a bad deal compared to the XTX for $999. However, given that I’m pairing it with an i5-11th gen, I wonder if I’m better off with the XT as I’ll probably be wasting an XTX?
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#49
Godrilla
The last poll I recollect with Ampere eventually got us the pricing we still see today. The only way we will see these prices if AMD can supply the demand and Nvidia will have no choice but to lower prices.
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#50
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
It's almost arrogant what Nvidia did in terms of the pricing for the 4080. Given there are 4080 AIB cards that reach to the 4090FE price, it's an absolute joke that anybody would buy one (at $1500-$1600), although Nvidia only need to restrict 4090 supply to drive people to buy the worse option at the higher price point. It is truly staggering.

It's fine to spend your money on what you want but for the perf diff between the two card, I figure people willing to spend 1300 bucks would probably be just as happy jumping for the 4090.

Then again, as has been mentioned, the 4080 is the xx80 model. It's not the xx90, xx90ti, or even the xx80ti. It's the enthiusiast card, NOT the halo product. I'm happy to see so many sitting on the shelves on the digital storefronts. But... one last thought - is Nvidia really just holding off to clear the 3000 series because they are disappearing?
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