Monday, December 5th 2022
AMD to Release Non-X Ryzen 7000 Series Desktop Processor SKUs Early-January
AMD is planning to give its Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" Socket AM5 desktop processor lineup a significant expansion in January, as rival Intel plans to do the same with its 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake." AMD's lineup expansion will be in both directions—toward the higher end with its 7000X3D series; and toward the lower end, with its 7000 non-X series. It is now becoming clear that the 7000 non-X series will see a retail-channel launch, and won't be relegated to the OEM/SI channel. This would mean boxed versions of these processors, probably including a stock cooling solution.
The Ryzen 7000 non-X series in the retail channel is expected to include the 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5 7600, the 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7 7700, and the 12-core/24-thread Ryzen 9 7900. The defining feature of these SKUs is their significantly lower TDP of just 65 W, which would put their PPT (package power tracking) value around 90 W. Their maximum boost frequencies are still north of the 5 GHz-mark, with the 7600 boosting up to 5.10 GHz, the 7700 going up to 5.30 GHz and the 7900 up to 5.40 GHz, however their base frequencies are significantly lower, with the 7600 around 3.80 GHz, the 7700 and 7900 between 3.60-3.80 GHz. The three are expected to feature aggressive power-management to meet their lower power limits, which should also lower their cooling requirements. Wccftech predicts that AMD could announce these processors in its January 4 International CES Keynote address, followed by availability on January 10. In related news, the 7000X3D could see an announcement in the same January 4 keynote, but with a slightly later product availability date.
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Wccftech
The Ryzen 7000 non-X series in the retail channel is expected to include the 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5 7600, the 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7 7700, and the 12-core/24-thread Ryzen 9 7900. The defining feature of these SKUs is their significantly lower TDP of just 65 W, which would put their PPT (package power tracking) value around 90 W. Their maximum boost frequencies are still north of the 5 GHz-mark, with the 7600 boosting up to 5.10 GHz, the 7700 going up to 5.30 GHz and the 7900 up to 5.40 GHz, however their base frequencies are significantly lower, with the 7600 around 3.80 GHz, the 7700 and 7900 between 3.60-3.80 GHz. The three are expected to feature aggressive power-management to meet their lower power limits, which should also lower their cooling requirements. Wccftech predicts that AMD could announce these processors in its January 4 International CES Keynote address, followed by availability on January 10. In related news, the 7000X3D could see an announcement in the same January 4 keynote, but with a slightly later product availability date.
25 Comments on AMD to Release Non-X Ryzen 7000 Series Desktop Processor SKUs Early-January
I don't think there will be a notable performance difference between a 7x00(non K) and a 7x00K with a lowered power target. That's something for a review.
If they can hold up they would be great chips for folks who wanted lower TPD. Lower heat, lower power consumption & possibly a boxed coller included. Win.
CES in January 2023 is also when Intel will be launching its "budget" i5 range which although numbered as 13th gen are likely to be derivatives of the Alder Lake 12600K/12700/12900 die. The 13400(F) will be a 6 Performance (P) core and 4 Efficient (E) core part, effectively a non-K slower version of the 12600K that is also 6P + 4E. The 13500 and 13600 are both 6P + 8E. It is interesting that 8E on Alder Lake is restricted to the i9s - even the 12700K has 8P + 4E. All of these 13th gen i5s will have more L2 and L3 cache, and slight speed bumps, the 13600 will turbo to 5.0 GHz.
We will have to see how the Zen 4 7600 stacks up against this new range of Intel i5s. But in the budget market the availability of cheap DDR4 B660 motherboards is a big deal, and ultimately it is platform cost that is likely to limit the appeal of Zen 4 at this end of the market.
Point is, the 7600X and 7700X sustain very high all-core clocks relative to single core boost. While base clock isn't indicative of all core freq, usually when base clock and TDP are low on Ryzen, all core freq is also relatively low. If so, then the 7600 and 7700 would be much closer to the efficiency sweet spot of N5, and run some much nicer temps and power.
People will never learn
Lower boost clock can impact all core productivity tasks, but it has zero impact on gaming performance. Some games run even better with a lower PPT target:
Question: does lower the PPT on a 7700X also lower the base clocks?
Only question remain: will they also get the 95 degree treatment so noise tuning them will be a headache.
Personally those prices are high. What the most I hate about this is that there are no 50e or 100e cpu's...
Many potential Zen4 customers don't give a damn about PCIe 5.0
AMD needs an A620 motherboard on the market at a sensible price, post-haste; It's really hard to recommend the platform as a whole with the stupidity of $300 B-series boards.
I'd bet good money that the "high cost of PCIe 5.0" is mostly marketing hype to justify higher prices.
So,
Intel 12400F (150usd) +Asus B660F (200usd)= $350,
Amd 7600X (300usd) + Asus B650E-E (350usd)= $650
And you are at same performance level. The DDR5 i did not calculated because both version require. With MSi board, which even cheaper board, running with cheaper ddr4. Than for half price you have the same performance system on Intel side. And AMD should be cheaper…
Outside of the OEM market I think AMD is competing against itself given the current prices of Zen 3 CPUs. The Intel 12100, retail, costs about $140, and the 7300X would probably need to be around that price to succeed. But $140 will buy you a 5600, no problem with $100 motherboards and cheap DDR4 memory. The DDR4/DDR5 transition is well under way, it's just a question of when they reach price parity. It might not be any later than the end of 2023 but who knows.