Wednesday, January 4th 2023

AMD Expands Desktop Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" Processor Family with 65W Models

Besides the sensational Ryzen 7000X3D processors taking the fight to Intel's "Raptor Lake," AMD expanded the desktop Ryzen 7000 even downwards, with the introduction of three new 65 W processor SKUs that include boxed stock coolers. These include the Ryzen 5 7600 6-core/12-thread, the Ryzen 7 7700 8-core/16-thread, and the Ryzen 9 7900 12-core/24-thread. There's no 16-core part in this segment. These processors come with TDP values set at just 65 W, and PPT values in the range of 90 W to 120 W, and so their clock speeds and maximum boost speeds are lower compared to the 7000X series, with more aggressive power-management.

The 7600 boosts up to 5.10 GHz, and packs a 65 W-capable Wraith Stealth boxed cooling solution. The 7700 boosts up to 5.30 GHz, and the 7900 up to 5.40 GHz. Both the 7700 and 7900 include a Wraith Prism RGB cooler that can handle thermal loads of up to 140 W. The three chips are priced lower than their 7000X series cousins, with the 7600 going for USD $229, the 7700 at $329, and the 7900 at $429. The three chips are drop-in compatible with existing Socket AM5 motherboards without needing any BIOS update.
AMD claims that with PBO (precision boost overdrive), you can raise the power limits for the these chips, and improve their performance by as much as 35%. This is similar to Intel's 65 W "locked" processors getting a free performance uplift by relaxing power limits in the motherboard BIOS level.
At stock speeds, all three new models are purported to offer significant performance uplifts over the previous-generation Ryzen 5 5600, 5700X, and 5900X.
The three processors should be available to purchase in the retail channel from January 10, 2023.
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30 Comments on AMD Expands Desktop Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" Processor Family with 65W Models

#26
PenguinBelly
docnorthAt least Intel pricing for affordable boards, 100-150 USD/€?
I have yet to see an Intel DDR5 board in that price range. Please inform me.

Plus, B660 boards and H670 boards are not adequate for higher-end skus. That leaves Z690 and Z790 boards for 13700/13900, which are either the same price as AM5 or even more expensive.
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#27
excitedbox
docnorthCouldn't agree more, but still no affordable motherboards on the horizon.

Btw this 7600 non-x clocks higher than 7800X3D... :nutkick:.
OMG have you heard the 64core EPYC is clocked even lower. LOL more cores ALWAYS means less speed but overall more performance. Same reason that a single core speed is always higher than multicore, you lose some speed when you add more cores. Not only is the 7800X3D adding cores, but also memory. This makes increases CPU energy consumption and means you have to decrease the speed slightly for overall higher performance. Look at any benchmark records. The highest core cpus get the highest scores, but the fastest overclock speed is always reached by the CPUs with lower core counts. That is not a choice by AMD, but a limit of physics. Unless they were to drop the speed of the lower core count CPU, just so amateurs like you don't feel cheated when they see that the most expensive chip has the lowest clock speed.

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PenguinBellyI have yet to see an Intel DDR5 board in that price range. Please inform me.

Plus, B660 boards and H670 boards are not adequate for higher-end skus. That leaves Z690 and Z790 boards for 13700/13900, which are either the same price as AM5 or even more expensive.
There are AM5 boards in the $150 price range. Intel has always been the more expensive company but fanboys will always make stupid arguments to feed their narrative. Just like his complaint about the lower core count chip having the higher clock speed, which is an energy density limitation not AMD choice. Just before Christmas new Egg had 12 motherboards priced between $129-160. They just removed the $20-40 discounts so now they are priced $150-200. That is just one retailer though and with some minor shopping around you will find plenty of options.
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docnorth
PenguinBellyI have yet to see an Intel DDR5 board in that price range. Please inform me.

Plus, B660 boards and H670 boards are not adequate for higher-end skus. That leaves Z690 and Z790 boards for 13700/13900, which are either the same price as AM5 or even more expensive.
I think we’re talking about 7600 non-x, which is in the 12400 and 13400 range. Btw a MSI B660m-a DDR5 board sells for less than 173€ in my country, US prices are almost always lower.
excitedboxOMG have you heard the 64core EPYC is clocked even lower. LOL more cores ALWAYS means less speed but overall more performance. Same reason that a single core speed is always higher than multicore, you lose some speed when you add more cores. Not only is the 7800X3D adding cores, but also memory. This makes increases CPU energy consumption and means you have to decrease the speed slightly for overall higher performance. Look at any benchmark records. The highest core cpus get the highest scores, but the fastest overclock speed is always reached by the CPUs with lower core counts. That is not a choice by AMD, but a limit of physics. Unless they were to drop the speed of the lower core count CPU, just so amateurs like you don't feel cheated when they see that the most expensive chip has the lowest clock speed.
The comparison between 7600x and 7800x busts your ‘arguments’. And the next time you disagree with someone, look first in the mirror before using insults as arguments.
Bet0nLisa Su had one sentence in which she said entry level AM5 motherboards are coming. For how much and when? Who knows.
Btw AM5 mbs can't be as cheap as Intel's because of the strict TDP requirements, the cheapest needs to be capable of running the best AM5 CPUs and that needs pretty capable vrms while on the Intel side you can forget i9s and even i7s in a cheap mb (without throttling at least).
But why should all boards be capable of running the best AMD (or Intel) CPUs? 7600 looks like an excellent relatively affordable (and hopefully cooler) CPU, but the MB pricing minimizes this advantage, at least for now.
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#29
trparky
OK, I'm confused. In the slides it mentions that these new chips are available on January 10th yet on AMD's own web site, it says that they launch on January 14th. Why the discrepency?
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#30
Leavenfish
Why_MeZ790 boards are great for higher end builds but not so much for budget to mid level builds. Luckily Intel has the DDR4 / DDR5 B660 and B760 boards to choose from. It's all about how much someone is willing to spend.
And when someone is buying a completely new rig...with parts that will be good and upgradable for years to come...a couple hundred bucks is not likely to be an issue.
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