FouquinYawn. I suppose the 3060 Ti, 2080 Ti, 3070, 6700 XT and 6800 are are also garbage then, since A770 lands right in that pack. The hardware is capable but let down by the drivers.

Nobody cares how capable the hardware allegedly is if the drivers are garbage, genius. That's why the other cards you mentioned are not garbage, because they actually have drivers that work.

chstamosThey've been developing them for half a decade, and had some kind of base (even if crappy) with their IGPUs to start from. In my humble opinion, intel is getting way too much leeway with "it's just a first generation try". They started developing this piece of shit in 2017, when RX580 was a brand new release. They've screwed the pooch, even by the reasonably low bar set for a relative "new comer" into discrete GPUs.

People were wishing away "a debacle like the i740" when intel announced its re-entry into the gpu market. What we got is much, much crappier than i740. What people are forgetting with i740, is that it was actually very good value for money. People were disappointed because it sucked compared to the flagship accelerators, and because the drivers were buggy. But it was an extremely affordable 3D card.

This time around we got all the problems of i740 without the value for money. It's literally excrement. If this dung pile was a i740-type release, the A770 would be going for 180-200, tops.

Yes, Intel are inept, that much we know already. The point is everyone would have screwed it up, it's just not really feasible to get perfectly functioning GPUs out the door. The thing that people don't realize is that GPUs are not developed like CPUs, manufacturers change the ISA and architecture drastically from generation to generation, this means there is a ton of software that needs to be written from scratch and tested with a huge backlog of software every time a new GPU architecture is released, this makes support a nightmare in many regards.

FouquinYawn. I suppose the 3060 Ti, 2080 Ti, 3070, 6700 XT and 6800 are are also garbage then, since A770 lands right in that pack. The hardware is capable but let down by the drivers.

A lot of us want Intel to succeed and drag GPU prices down to sane levels again, but their drivers aren't up to scratch yet. The hardware is capable, but the drivers still have a lot of work left. If you watch the video shared by @TumbleGeorge in post 18, you can see that the drivers have troubles with games like Black Mesa. In addition, the performance improved for some games, but regressed significantly for others.

LabRat 891:twitch: I do want a 16GB A770, but as a Collectible/Curio.
How long until Intel gives these The Optane Treatment? (ie. liquidating inventory of an early-EoL product/generation, at a fraction of retail)

Wait till they are 0 dollars lol

AnotherReaderA lot of us want Intel to succeed and drag GPU prices down to sane levels again, but their drivers aren't up to scratch yet. The hardware is capable, but the drivers still have a lot of work left. If you watch the video shared by @TumbleGeorge in post 18, you can see that the drivers have troubles with games like Black Mesa. In addition, the performance improved for some games, but regressed significantly for others.

Dude pricing is not going to go down because of intel, they are tied up with nvidia as kings of price gouging, no thanks

Vya DomusYes, Intel are inept, that much we know already. The point is everyone would have screwed it up, it's just not really feasible to get perfectly functioning GPUs out the door. The thing that people don't realize is that GPUs are not developed like CPUs, manufacturers change the ISA and architecture drastically from generation to generation, this means there is a ton of software that needs to be written from scratch and tested with a huge backlog of software every time a new GPU architecture is released, this makes support a nightmare in many regards.

No matter how many times I see it, making excuses for a megacorporation that has all the resources in the world to succeed yet manages to fail anyway, never ceases to be utterly pathetic.

Unless that company directly pays your salary or you own its shares, fanboying for them gets you literally nothing, so why do you do it? Are you so incredibly insecure that you have to tie your self-worth to that of a hugely successful entity like Intel, that knows nothing of and cares nothing for you?

Arc is not a promising product that just needs a bit of a chance to become good; it is a bad product from a company that can and should have done far better. Trying to portray it as anything else is dishonest and does an injustice to consumers who deserve proper competition - not this insultingly half-a**ed pseudo-effort that was created solely to capitalise on stock shortages from the established GPU vendors due to the cryptomining boom.

AssimilatorNo matter how many times I see it, making excuses for a megacorporation that has all the resources in the world

I am not making excuses for them, I wouldn't touch anything that has an Intel label on it with a ten foot pole even if it was actually good.

eidairaman1Dude pricing is not going to go down because of intel, they are tied up with nvidia as kings of price gouging, no thanks

They can't charge high prices now. They have to undercut AMD to sell. They are selling a significantly larger die than the 6700 XT with more RAM for less than the 3060 Ti. On the other hand, the generally better 6700 XT can often be had for less.

Solaris17damn this looks nice

This is one of best looking cards I've seen in awhile. Too bad about it being built around an Intel GPU, also too bad its needlessly big, thats a trend that needs to stop.

Comments again seem to be filled with people who accept only flagship cards of the highest order. Classic, but the average user is not known for having those...

AssimilatorThat's why the other cards you mentioned are not garbage, because they actually have drivers that work.

Thats true for people using Windows. For people using Linux, Nvidia is in the same boat as Intel here.