damn this looks nice

:twitch: I do want a 16GB A770, but as a Collectible/Curio.
How long until Intel gives these The Optane Treatment? (ie. liquidating inventory of an early-EoL product/generation, at a fraction of retail)

Solaris17damn this looks nice

Looks nice but at $470 its a total nogo. Intel's price is $349 and their cooler is perfectly fine.

TheinsanegamerNLooks nice but at $470 its a total nogo. Intel's price is $349 and their cooler is perfectly fine.

Intel's cooler isn't great, honestly. 50C idle, 85C load due to the lack of any fan controls. The stock PCB also starts to choke at around 270W. The best thing this new card can bring to the market is something that can handle a bit more power draw without pushing above the throttle point, allowing more consistent 2800MHz clocks (which some Intel LE cards can't even reach).

A bit late to the party isn't it?
ARC lunched 6 month ago..

Had already forgotten Intel made GPUs.

TheDeeGeeHad already forgotten Intel made GPUs.

They have 9.15% marketshare on steam, closing in on AMDs 14.8%, so

If Intel lowered prices and upped availablity, they would probably take a good amount of marketshare

lasThey have 9.15% marketshare on steam, closing in on AMDs 14.8%, so

If Intel lowered prices and upped availablity, they would probably take a good amount of marketshare

This includes IGP

way too late
way too expensive
way too big

hard pass

lasThey have 9.15% marketshare on steam, closing in on AMDs 14.8%, so

If Intel lowered prices and upped availablity, they would probably take a good amount of marketshare

You are basically implying that that is all ARC sales in this context which is hilarious

Vayra86This includes IGP

What is AMD iGPU (still mainly APU) market share? I lost some time to search but not see specific graph only for AMD vs intel iGPU ratio on the market only general graphs for all processors, and as we know AMD literally until "yesterday" did not have iGPU in their main consumer series of processors, only in their APUs.

TumbleGeorgeWhat is AMD iGPU (still mainly APU) market share? I lost some time to search but not see specific graph only for AMD vs intel iGPU ratio on the market only general graphs for all processors, and as we know AMD literally until "yesterday" did not have iGPU in their main consumer series of processors, only in their APUs.

Well it's obviously much lower than Intel's iGPU market share and that will continue to be the case for many years to come.

TheDeeGeeHad already forgotten Intel made GPUs.

I was hoping to see Intel being more aggressive with their dGPUs but they were late to the party and didn't bring the competition like I had hoped. Maybe in their next generation they will bring it. I'm a bit skeptical of that though for now.

LabRat 891:twitch: I do want a 16GB A770, but as a Collectible/Curio.
How long until Intel gives these The Optane Treatment? (ie. liquidating inventory of an early-EoL product/generation, at a fraction of retail)

Just wait until GUNNIR goes under for trying to sell this overpriced garbage.

FouquinIntel's cooler isn't great, honestly. 50C idle, 85C load due to the lack of any fan controls. The stock PCB also starts to choke at around 270W. The best thing this new card can bring to the market is something that can handle a bit more power draw without pushing above the throttle point, allowing more consistent 2800MHz clocks (which some Intel LE cards can't even reach).

You're saying this as if being able to hit 2.8GHz magically transforms ARC from garbage into gold.

64KI was hoping to see Intel being more aggressive with their dGPUs but they were late to the party and didn't bring the competition like I had hoped. Maybe in their next generation they will bring it. I'm a bit skeptical of that though for now.

The deafening silence from the Intel dGPU division since ARC was actually released and everyone got to see how incredibly s**t it actually is, versus the oceans of PR they were putting out beforehand, is most telling. It's almost like Intel did a USSR or China and "disappeared" that division for its failure.

I predict that Intel will discontinue its dGPU after this first generation.

DavenI predict that Intel will discontinue its dGPU after this first generation.

Considering their lack of marketing it certainly could be construed that they don't won't to throw more money at a lost cause.

DavenI predict that Intel will discontinue its dGPU after this first generation.

And that Raj gpu dude will break his back again/have emergency surgery to avoid questions.

Intel has better performance with latest drivers.

I suppose still have some issues but is better now.

AssimilatorThe deafening silence from the Intel dGPU division since ARC was actually released and everyone got to see how incredibly s**t it actually is, versus the oceans of PR they were putting out beforehand, is most telling. It's almost like Intel did a USSR or China and "disappeared" that division for its failure.

I am actually amazed their cards are as usable as they are right now.

Vya DomusI am actually amazed their cards are as usable as they are right now.

They've been developing them for half a decade, and had some kind of base (even if crappy) with their IGPUs to start from. In my humble opinion, intel is getting way too much leeway with "it's just a first generation try". They started developing this piece of shit in 2017, when RX580 was a brand new release. They've screwed the pooch, even by the reasonably low bar set for a relative "new comer" into discrete GPUs.

People were wishing away "a debacle like the i740" when intel announced its re-entry into the gpu market. What we got is much, much crappier than i740. What people are forgetting with i740, is that it was actually very good value for money. People were disappointed because it sucked compared to the flagship accelerators, and because the drivers were buggy. But it was an extremely affordable 3D card.

This time around we got all the problems of i740 without the value for money. It's literally excrement. If this dung pile was a i740-type release, the A770 would be going for 180-200, tops.

chstamosThey've been developing them for half a decade, and had some kind of base (even if crappy) with their IGPUs to start from. In my humble opinion, intel is getting way too much leeway with "it's just a first generation try". They started developing this piece of shit in 2017, when RX580 was a brand new release. They've screwed the pooch, even by the reasonably low bar set for a relative "new comer" into discrete GPUs.

People were wishing away "a debacle like the i740" when intel announced its re-entry into the gpu market. What we got is much, much crappier than i740. What people are forgetting with i740, is that it was actually very good value for money. People were disappointed because it sucked compared to the flagship accelerators, and because the drivers were buggy. But it was an extremely affordable 3D card.

This time around we got all the problems of i740 without the value for money. It's literally excrement. If this dung pile was a i740-type release, the A770 would be going for 180-200, tops.

What’s funny is that nVidia zealots feel the same way about every GPU released by ATI/AMD. Thank you Intel for giving everyone much needed perspective on what an actually bad GPU looks like.

DavenWhat’s funny is that nVidia zealots feel the same way about every GPU released by ATI/AMD. Thank you Intel for giving everyone much needed perspective on what an actually bad GPU looks like.

That intel has been hyping up this to high tides and back, only adds to the disappointment. They could have gone for a much more measured marketing approach. I mean, the bar has to be set to... larrabee (as in : no release at all) for this shitfest not to be a complete failure. They've priced the worst GPU in its respective price range identically to proven and superior AMD and nVidia GPUs!! I do hope they get their act together on later generations, but if I were a betting man, I would not put my money on it. Or a bag of potato chips.

Looks good now.
This is the perception of people, more muscular cooling with 3 fans will always gives a high-end image.
Plus RGB lights are ok :).

chstamosThey've been developing them for half a decade, and had some kind of base (even if crappy) with their IGPUs to start from. In my humble opinion, intel is getting way too much leeway with "it's just a first generation try". They started developing this piece of shit in 2017, when RX580 was a brand new release. They've screwed the pooch, even by the reasonably low bar set for a relative "new comer" into discrete GPUs.

People were wishing away "a debacle like the i740" when intel announced its re-entry into the gpu market. What we got is much, much crappier than i740. What people are forgetting with i740, is that it was actually very good value for money. People were disappointed because it sucked compared to the flagship accelerators, and because the drivers were buggy. But it was an extremely affordable 3D card.

This time around we got all the problems of i740 without the value for money. It's literally excrement. If this dung pile was a i740-type release, the A770 would be going for 180-200, tops.

Funny you should mention the RX 580, because that card was the start of AMD announcing that, after a decade of complaints, they would FINALLY fix their drivers, and it took them 2-3 years to get them stable again. rom a company that has been making drivers for nearly 20 years.

GPU drivers are not easy. If intel is having this much issue it really contextualizes the work AMD did on a shoestring budget.

TheinsanegamerNFunny you should mention the RX 580, because that card was the start of AMD announcing that, after a decade of complaints, they would FINALLY fix their drivers, and it took them 2-3 years to get them stable again. rom a company that has been making drivers for nearly 20 years.

GPU drivers are not easy. If intel is having this much issue it really contextualizes the work AMD did on a shoestring budget.

Except none of that is true. The drivers were ‘fixed’ when ATI/AMD started monthly drivers in 2010. Some might say things were ‘fixed’ even before that.

betanews.com/2007/01/29/amd-s-first-catalyst-drivers-for-vista-will-support-hd-dvd-blu-ray/

And of course this myth has been addressed time and time again. For instance this Guru 3D forum thread from 2010.

forums.guru3d.com/threads/new-monthly-ati-driver-team-slagging-thread.324570/page-7

The time AMD ‘fixed’ their drivers keeps changing back and forth for almost two decades now. When will the AMD driver myth die.

BTW, I’ve switched back and forth between AMD and Nvidia almost every build since the Geforce2 Ti. Before that I used 3DFX voodoo cards and before that Trident cards. This whole supposed driver problem is a mystery to me as I’ve only had occasional problems with no clear trend from one company. I’m guessing this is being caused by reddit where anyone can find anything that someone is complaining about and then concludes its happening to everyone.

AssimilatorYou're saying this as if being able to hit 2.8GHz magically transforms ARC from garbage into gold.

Yawn. I suppose the 3060 Ti, 2080 Ti, 3070, 6700 XT and 6800 are are also garbage then, since A770 lands right in that pack. The hardware is capable but let down by the drivers.