Monday, April 3rd 2023

AMD Shows More Ryzen 7 7800X3D Gaming Benchmarks

AMD has revealed more Ryzen 7 7800X3D gaming benchmarks ahead of the official launch scheduled for April 6th. AMD has previously shared some results comparing this 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7000X3D series SKU with Intel's Core i9-13900K or the predecessor, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, showing up to 24 and 30 percent performance increase.

Now, a new slide has been leaked online, which is a part of AMD's Ryzen 7 7800X3D review guide, comparing it once again with the Intel Core i9-13900K, but going head to head in several more games. At 1080p resolution and high settings, the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is anywhere from 2 to 31 percent faster, but there are several games where the Core i9-13900K is also faster, such as CS:GO.
As noted, the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is the third SKU in the Ryzen 7000X3D series lineup, and this one comes with a single CCD with 3D V-Cache, rather than the asymmetric design with two CCDs like the Ryzen 9 7950X3D and Ryzen 9 7900X3D, where only one of the CCDs had the 3D V-Cache. It works at up to 5.0 GHz Boost clock, has a total of 104 MB of L2+L3 cache, and a 120 W TDP.

The Ryzen 7 7800X3D launches at $449, which puts it at $20 more expensive than the Ryzen 9 7900 and about $100 cheaper than the 7900X. It is also around $110 more expensive than the Ryzen 7 7700X. Intel's Core i9-13900K is currently selling at $579.99, which is the lowest price in 30 days, according to Newegg.com.
Source: Videocardz
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49 Comments on AMD Shows More Ryzen 7 7800X3D Gaming Benchmarks

#1
Hyderz
Cool! cant wait to see the benchmarks on this...
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#2
ratirt
If you asked me, just by judging from the AMD slide, I'd say a 7800X3d is better for gaming since some games get huge improvement. Games where 13900K wins like CSGO 9% is not bad but the FPS you get in this game is enormous as it is. Still, AMD slides to show performance, skeptical and we'll have to wait for something more detailed than that and verify how truthful they are.
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#3
luches
I don't think people care about performance as much as they care about power draw specially about this particular chip. if it's even more efficient than 5800X3D as simulation displayed and delivers top notch gaming performance at like sub 50w, that would be an absolute winner.
All these numbers will shrink to 5% range of each other at 4k, and the difference will be minuscule, so it's really not a big deal. But for power draw that's indeed a big deal !
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#4
Vayra86
Its clear as day, this CPU wipes the floor with anything Intel can produce right now. Perf/w is in a completely different league, its cheaper, you need less (no-) exotic cooling to pull max performance from it, and it accelerates games where it matters most.
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#5
aciDev
ratirtIf you asked me, just by judging from the AMD slide, I'd say a 7800X3d is better for gaming since some games get huge improvement. Games where 13900K wins like CSGO 9% is not bad but the FPS you get in this game is enormous as it is. Still, AMD slides to show performance, skeptical and we'll have to wait for something more detailed than that and verify how truthful they are.
The 13900K Wins in CS:GO, but what's going to be with CS:GO 2 ?
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#7
Bwaze
Vayra86Its clear as day, this CPU wipes the floor with anything Intel can produce right now. Perf/w is in a completely different league, its cheaper, you need less (no-) exotic cooling to pull max performance from it, and it accelerates games where it matters most.
I still hope AMD will find a way to integrate this 3D cache in their main line of CPUs and we won't have to choose a CPU that's better for gaming or the one that's better for productivity. The two CCD 7900X3D and 7950X3D also aren't without problems.
fancuckerwww.techspot.com/news/98154-motherboard-software-bug-makes-easy-accidentally-kill-amd.html

TPU is an excellent publication, but it hasn't reported on the voltage sensitivity of the new X3D CPUs, particularly the incident with DerBauer. Kindly report on it so prospective consumers aren't fooled.
They also haven't reported widespread dying of Samsung SSDs. Apparently due to staff shortage.

;-)
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#9
JustBenching
Vayra86Its clear as day, this CPU wipes the floor with anything Intel can produce right now. Perf/w is in a completely different league, its cheaper, you need less (no-) exotic cooling to pull max performance from it, and it accelerates games where it matters most.
Does it? You mean for gaming specifically I assume, cause everything else - no? The 7800x 3d is a lot slower than a mid range intel cpu like the 13600k. Probably even the 13500
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#10
Vayra86
fevgatosDoes it? You mean for gaming specifically I assume, cause everything else - no? The 7800x 3d is a lot slower than a mid range intel cpu like the 13600k.
I mean gaming specifically, sure.
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#11
SunMaster
BwazeI still hope AMD will find a way to integrate this 3D cache in their main line of CPUs and we won't have to choose a CPU that's better for gaming or the one that's better for productivity. The two CCD 7900X3D and 7950X3D also aren't without problems.
Agreed. As the logic around which core to choose for which task improve (the scheduler) things will look better for 3dcached cores (and perhaps also Intels cripplecores)
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#12
oxrufiioxo
fancuckerwww.techspot.com/news/98154-motherboard-software-bug-makes-easy-accidentally-kill-amd.html

TPU is an excellent publication, but it hasn't reported on the voltage sensitivity of the new X3D CPUs, particularly the incident with DerBauer. Kindly report on it so prospective consumers aren't fooled.
Fooled by what? I can see the headline now running the cpu out of spec can kill it.... In other news grass is green, water is wet, and the sky is blue.

Also this is more of a vendor software issue bypassing the cpu stock settings. Now if running these cpu out of the box killed them sure.
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#13
JustBenching
I would buy the 7950x 3d over a 13900k - but no way in hell I would spend 450 for the 7800x 3d over 580 for the 13900k. The price is nutty. 350$ and we have a deal
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#14
oxrufiioxo
fevgatosI would buy the 7950x 3d over a 13900k - but no way in hell I would spend 450 for the 7800x 3d over 580 for the 13900k. The price is nutty. 350$ and we have a deal
I'd be more tempted by the 450 usd 7800X3D than the 700 usd 7950X3D I think if more MT performance was my goal I'd just get the 13900k or vanilla 7950X.

That's the beauty of the current market is choice neither of us is wrong we might just have different priorities when buying a cpu.

I wish amd was similarly competitive in the gpu segment but I guess I could say the same with intel which in the high end gaming market I still feel like if I want the best at everything raster/RT/features nvidia and their scummy ways is my only option.
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#15
SunMaster
fevgatosDoes it? You mean for gaming specifically I assume, cause everything else - no? The 7800x 3d is a lot slower than a mid range intel cpu like the 13600k. Probably even the 13500
Is it? Doing what? As far as I know the 13600k and 7800x are neck and neck, so how the 7800x3d would be «a lot slower» really beats me.
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#16
oxrufiioxo
SunMasterIs it? Doing what? As far as I know the 13600k and 7800x are neck and neck, so how the 7800x3d would be «a lot slower» really beats me.
He means at non gaming MT task which is true and was also true on the 5800X3D both are meant strictly for gaming and there is nothing wrong with that.

Also ST will likely take a small hit vs the 7700X as well as all core frequencies.
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#17
JustBenching
SunMasterIs it? Doing what? As far as I know the 13600k and 7800x are neck and neck, so how the 7800x3d would be «a lot slower» really beats me.
In the vast majority of MT tasks a 13500 is beating - by a small margin - the 7700x. The 13600k is beating both of those handily. I do not expect the 3d to be faster than the 7700x,, if anything it might take a small hit on clockspeeds, so no way it's anywhere close the 13600k for MT workloads.
oxrufiioxoI'd be more tempted by the 450 usd 7800X3D than the 700 usd 7950X3D I think if more MT performance was my goal I'd just get the 13900k or vanilla 7950X.

That's the beauty of the current market is choice neither of us is wrong we might just have different priorities when buying a cpu.

I wish amd was similarly competitive in the gpu segment but I guess I could say the same with intel which in the high end gaming market I still feel like if I want the best at everything raster/RT/features nvidia and their scummy ways is my only option.
Yeah i wasnt making a broad claim about which one is the better option, just my personal preference. Even for gaming, seeing how latest releases max out all 16 cores on my 12900k, I don't see the 7800x 3d being a 450€ CPU. It lacks resources to compete in that price imo
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#18
Minus Infinity
One trick pony. I mean 7700X is so slow in gaming, it's worth giving up productivity performance to play 3 or 4 games much faster. Other than power 13700/13600 much more rounded and also plenty fast enough for ANY game.
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#19
Vya Domus
Minus InfinityI mean 7700X is so slow in gaming
No it's not, what a strange thing to say, there is no new CPU from either Intel or AMD that's "so slow".
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#20
mkppo
fancuckerwww.techspot.com/news/98154-motherboard-software-bug-makes-easy-accidentally-kill-amd.html

TPU is an excellent publication, but it hasn't reported on the voltage sensitivity of the new X3D CPUs, particularly the incident with DerBauer. Kindly report on it so prospective consumers aren't fooled.
The X3D's aren't even supposed to overclock, you can adjust the PBO optimizer to gain performance which never kills the CPU. A bug can cause you to manually be able to adjust voltage, and manually entering high volts will kill the CPU. Thing is though, it's the same thing with every CPU, some are just more sensitive than others. Only difference is, X3D's need a bug and an obscure one at that AND needs you to manually ramp up voltage in order to kill it. Which is exactly why it isn't even a big deal. Most other CPU's have the option to adjust the voltage freely, and you put too much voltage through them and they'll all die. Do they get news? No. Because for ages we all know that.

I don't think anyone's getting fooled here nor is anyone buying an X3D CPU, installing MSI center, manually ramping up voltage and then killing the CPU just for jokes.
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#21
JustBenching
Vya DomusNo it's not, what a strange thing to say, there is no new CPU from either Intel or AMD that's "so slow".
He was being ironic
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#22
The King
Review on this CPU are out on YT from several reputable channels.
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#23
oxrufiioxo
The KingReview on this CPU are out on YT from several reputable channels.
I mean considering all you have to do for the most part is disable a ccd on the 7950X3D to get within margin of error of it's performance I don't see how reviews are overly relevant other than to confirm what many sites have already shown.
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#24
JustBenching
The KingReview on this CPU are out on YT from several reputable channels.
LOL, that video is absolutely fake.
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#25
oxrufiioxo
fevgatosLOL, that video is absolutely fake.
Unless the video shows a person with the hardware in hand I classify it as fake news.
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