Wednesday, August 9th 2023

Intel Core i5-14600K and Core i7-14700K Show up in the Wild

Multiple leakers on Twitter/X have posted screenshots or pictures of Intel's upcoming Core i5-14600K CPU and it appears that some earlier rumours about this specific SKU weren't entirely accurate. It was believed that the Core i5-14600K was to get a core bump over the Core i5-13600K, but apparently this isn't the case, if the new leaks hold true. However, it also appears that the CPU will boost higher than expected, as earlier rumours suggested 5.3 GHz max boost clock and now it appears it'll go all the way up to 5.5 GHz, which is still lower than its Core i7 and Core i9 peers. The i5 also lacks Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0, so it won't be possible to squeeze some extra performance out of this chip without overclocking it the good old fashioned way.

@9550pro posted a screenshot of CPU-Z in Chinese showing the Core i5-14600K running in a Gigabyte Z790 Gaming X AX motherboard, but it's unknown what the rest of the system configuration was. However, it does show the CPU having a clock multiplier ranging from 8 to 55, confirming the 5.5 GHz max CPU clock speed. @wxnod posted a picture of an MSI Z690 Edge TI WiFi DDR4 motherboard with a Core i7-14700K paired with 16 GB of DDR4 memory running at 4600 MHz on Gear 1, which in itself is a feat, although it's unknown if this was stable. The CPU was shown as running at 6.3 GHz, which is most likely a manual overclock of the CPU, as the Core i7-14700K isn't expected to be a 6 GHz plus part. We're getting close to the launch of Intel's 14th gen Core processors, so we won't have to wait too long to find out the full specs of these CPUs.

Update 07:17 UTC: Twitter/X bot Benchleaks has found some Geekbench results for the Core i5-14600K which @harukaze5719 made a nice graph of that we've added below. This suggests that Intel has managed to eke out quite a bit of extra performance from these "refreshed" CPUs.
Sources: @9550pro on Twitter/X, @wxnod on Twitter/X, @BenchLeaks on Twitter/X, @harukaze5719 on Twitter/X
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32 Comments on Intel Core i5-14600K and Core i7-14700K Show up in the Wild

#26
ir_cow
FouquinDDR4-4600 at 1.624v. I've pushed 1.5v on DDR4 in the past, but I've never seen a kit built to take more than 1.6v. That's DDR3 levels of voltage.
DDR4-5066 and 5333 kits exist. They use 1.6V. But in Gear 2, pretty much anything in Gear 1 will beat it.
FouquinDoes current gen Intel stuff still base DDR_VREF at the system agent voltage for the IMC? Could this be pushing 1.4v+ at the IMC to achieve these speeds?
Good question. It's split now after 10th Gen. For DDR5 you have, SA, VDDQ_TX and VDD2 (IMC) rails, but DDR4 has VDDQ_TX removed (thinking its only DDR5 relevant).
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#27
kondamin
might as well just launch the things at this point.
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#28
Dyatlov A
LeshyOC is dead ... days with Q6600 are gone ... btw back in the days i was overclocking to run stable 60 fps .. now if its 200 or 250 it doesnt matter :D
Nope, that is why need to buy non k, 12400 and overclocking is awesome.
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#29
MaMoo
dyonoctisThat's a weird behavior. You mean that your P cores are just sitting there doing nothing while they wait for the e-core to finish their task ?
Yes exactly.
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#30
dyonoctis
MaMooYes exactly.
That's really odd, It's like the app is dividing the task on exactly 24 threads for a 13700k...
meanwhile content creation apps just give the core a new task when it's done
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#31
MaMoo
dyonoctisThat's really odd, It's like the app is dividing the task on exactly 24 threads for a 13700k...
meanwhile content creation apps just give the core a new task when it's done
Yeah. I don't like the behaviour because it is not a most efficient use of dissimilar cores. But I get it - the multiprocessing model is based on identical core performance. The type of workload needs to be executed on equal-sized work chunks, because aggregate statistics are derived from it after all chunks are complete. May be there would be a better way eventually.
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#32
MaMoo
TheinsanegamerNTry 6w per E core
www.anandtech.com/show/17047/the-intel-12th-gen-core-i912900k-review-hybrid-performance-brings-hybrid-complexity/4

for something with 8 e cores, that's 48w. Not exactly a small number. More importantly, turning them off turns that silicon into an extended die for the P cores to sink heat into, and into the IHS for cooling, helping to somewhat alleviate the issue of tiny transistors shedding heat.

As if the P cores cannot handle that. AMD manages to compete with intel without using such E cores.
I finally managed to test out your idea of turning off ecores to make more thermal or power headroom for the pcores. You are right. After I disabled all my ecores, my Linpack performance went UP exactly 11%. The temps are also cooler on a Noctua DH15. This is much better than with the ecores on. At least for my workload the ecores were not useful anyway. Also the performance variance is much smaller between runs. It used to vary about 5 to 10 % from run to run but now is within less than 1 %.
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