Wednesday, September 13th 2023
AMD Accelerators Rumored to Nudge Out Higher-End Radeon RX 8000 GPUs
We heard murmurings back in early August about a slightly disappointing future for RDNA 4—multiple sources claimed that AMD had dropped development of a Navi 31 successor. Rumored reasons included "a cost justification of developing high-end GPUs to push enough volumes over the product lifecycle," as well as the apparent complexity of chiplet designs making it difficult to climb up the ladder of generational performance improvements.
The "narrowed" RDNA 4 product lineup is said to only encompass Navi 43 and Navi 44 GPUs, with a heavier focus on mid-range offerings. Lately, Bits And Chips has decided to pile on with another theory, likely obtained from their favored inside source: "AMD will sacrifice next Radeon gaming GPUs (RX 8000) output at TSMC in order to pump up FPGA and GPGPU production." The AI hardware market is in a boom phase, and Team Red is keen to catch up with NVIDIA—past reports have suggested that Team Green production priorities have shifted away GeForce RTX 4090 GPUs, in favor of an output uptick of "immensely profitable" H100 AI GPUs. Is AMD simply copying the market leader's homework?
Sources:
Techspot, Bits & Chips
The "narrowed" RDNA 4 product lineup is said to only encompass Navi 43 and Navi 44 GPUs, with a heavier focus on mid-range offerings. Lately, Bits And Chips has decided to pile on with another theory, likely obtained from their favored inside source: "AMD will sacrifice next Radeon gaming GPUs (RX 8000) output at TSMC in order to pump up FPGA and GPGPU production." The AI hardware market is in a boom phase, and Team Red is keen to catch up with NVIDIA—past reports have suggested that Team Green production priorities have shifted away GeForce RTX 4090 GPUs, in favor of an output uptick of "immensely profitable" H100 AI GPUs. Is AMD simply copying the market leader's homework?
44 Comments on AMD Accelerators Rumored to Nudge Out Higher-End Radeon RX 8000 GPUs
AMD has not abandoned high-end, you'll just have to wait for RDNA5 late 2025 at the earliest. RDNA4 was having troubles with the complex MCD design, it's far more complex than RDNA3 and even though they could eventually fix the isses, they did not want to spend the resources or time to do so as that would have pushed RDNA5 even later.
Apparently N43 will be far stronger than one would expect and should easily beat say 7700XT in raster and be far stronger in RT.
7900's will just have to carry the fight for an extra 18 months at high end. Also Blackwell is not coming out until sometime in 2025 either. I wouldn't be too upset.
AMD may not be so great at denting NVIDIA's market share, but having the option to not support nvidia and still get a good product I will say is nice. Intel ARC may be nice and all, but they don't have the class of hardware that people like myself go for, and because AMD has that class of hardware, it still helps to keep nvidia trying to compete, though I don't believe that they are anymore, not seriously anyway.What do you mean bad performance offered by AMD lol, at those prices AMD is better than nvidia, the price that console manufacturers seek. If you think AMD has bad performance then just look at nvidia for a quick second, remove your bias
The APU is really slow because it is memory bandwidth starved.
Consoles are not running any games faster than even a modest gaming PC. Only a really low-end budget PC would be running games inferior to a contemporary console.
osgamers.com/frequently-asked-questions/is-your-pc-faster-than-a-console
Console:
AMD Radeon RDNA 2-based graphics engine
10.28 Teraflops
36 CUs @ 2.23GHz
Radeon RX 6600:
AMD Radeon RDNA 2-based graphics engine
8.92 Teraflops
28 CUs @2.04GHz~2.49GHz
ah yes, very valid answer..... very good insight. I am now wholly convinced that a mid/low end PC is above consoles
66/6700 is mid, it's not low end. low end is still spin-disk. under 3060Ti above the other 3060s
I mean, You know the target hardware and don't program the game to run within the expected performance, it can only be your fault. The same goes for devs who put intensive RT to see the 4080 running at 30-40fps.
If they can make a card at the price point of an 8600 with the performance of a 7700XT or better it could sell very well IMO.
The change would be good for pricing flexibility, as it is the most sensitive segment. Samsung also has 24Gbps memories. in short, there are many pieces on the board to move...
So, now what? 3nm GPUs in 2026?
The "never released" Navi 41 has over 12,800 shaders! o_O
9 shader engines, over 200 compute units, up to 20 chiplets in total (3 active interposer dies, and many multimedia | I/O dies). Crazy interesting.
Speculation says double the performance of RX 7900 XTX.
Unfortunately, RDNA 5 will be released in 2026. Until then... slow Radeons only.
forums.anandtech.com/threads/rdna4-cdna3-architectures-thread.2602668/page-92#post-41199563
videocardz.com/newz/amd-cancelled-radeon-rx-8000-gpu-could-have-featured-over-200-compute-units