ir_cowDude, just give up and admit you didn't know it ran in 64bit at all. Now we are all on the same page.

Give up on what? Until the entire program is 64bit i will keep asking why i should pay for 32bit in 2023.
Yes i did not know that the benchmarks are 64bit but that's just one part of the whole program.

Then don’t buy it.. no one is forcing you. You can watch us play in the Aida thread.

freeagentThen don’t buy it.. no one is forcing you. You can watch us play in the Aida thread.

Hi,
Thank you for confirming it's a toy :cool:

ThrashZoneHi,
Thank you for confirming it's a toy :cool:

I had a key that I used for about 10 years.. then they brought out this stupid subscription service lol.. got a good deal on 2 years a few months ago :laugh:

Ugh.

Just got this in time... happy days! :clap:

freeagentThen don’t buy it.. no one is forcing you. You can watch us play in the Aida thread.

Is that supposed to be an excuse? If a developer is asking $60 a year - minimum, then i don't think it's unreasonable to ask 64bit, dark mode support etc.
I could understand it if it was a free or very cheap program and there was only one guy coding it in he's spare time. But it's not the case here.

Solaris17yeah here is a screen shot from my dev kit.

Do you have a means to confirm that benchmarking code is native, not emulated? Task Manager, perhaps?

(Actually, it would be very interesting if you had both options so you could see what's the overhead of emulation.)

TomorrowIs that supposed to be an excuse? If a developer is asking $60 a year - minimum, then i don't think it's unreasonable to ask 64bit, dark mode support etc.
I could understand it if it was a free or very cheap program and there was only one guy coding it in he's spare time. But it's not the case here.

Considering they have made roughly 8 billion dollars $60 x 147 million downloads, and that's if all buyers bought extreme version so it could be considerably more, it's a bit tight not to want to do a basic version.

FoulOnWhiteConsidering they have made roughly 8 billion dollars $60 x 147 million downloads, and that's if all buyers bought extreme version so it could be considerably more, it's a bit tight not to want to do a basic version.

Human support is really expensive and with a potential basic or even free version you get way more people to use it but even more tickets to reply to. At least that is my experience with such things.

I do use it since Everest times and it is simply amazing, something does not work? Upload the data and get a beta version pretty soon and even a reply to the upload.

Too bad they don't have a freeware version. They get to sell all your info for profit. Paid for benchmarks just get pushed into irrelevence sooner or later. Adios.

WirkoBut can it be called "subscription" when you can stop paying and legally use the version you have installed for the next ~30 years?
www.aida64.com/licensing

Yes. You are quite likely to have new and unsupported hardware far before 30 years. God forbid you should want something like a new GPU...

$7.5 / PC for 1 year, not bad

R-T-BA lot of 64-bit native programs still do this if the installer is 32-bit, just FYI. Even steam does.

Yeah. It does. But the thing is, they've pushed W7 people to upgrade to W10, because Steam is based on chromium. And they yet can't make a native 64bit. At the same time, the Chrome is 64-bit since 2014, and Firefox runs 64 bit natively on Windows, since 2015. Not that there's any problem, just the fact.

TomorrowIs that supposed to be an excuse? If a developer is asking $60 a year - minimum, then i don't think it's unreasonable to ask 64bit, dark mode support etc.
I could understand it if it was a free or very cheap program and there was only one guy coding it in he's spare time. But it's not the case here.

Exactly. I doubt many people go buy it. Perhaps, most of downloads goes for trial Extreme. The pros, who need the Business or Engineer edition for work, wil buy it anyway. The HWiNFO on the other hand, has both 32 and 64 bit excutables.

And this is indeed 32 bit.



And yes there is free software, made by the sole guys. And it has dark themes, a lot of plug-ins and native support, bug fixes, and 64 bit native.

Everest never claimed 64 in it's name. And it's a bit of shame for $60 software in 2023. But if it works, than maybe let it be?

DragokarHuman support is really expensive and with a potential basic or even free version you get way more people to use it but even more tickets to reply to. At least that is my experience with such things.

I do use it since Everest times and it is simply amazing, something does not work? Upload the data and get a beta version pretty soon and even a reply to the upload.

It is expensive. And it makes additional pressure on support and dev team from loads of unregistered free users, and does in bigger extent, than from paid customers, and without any finanial benefit. But on the other hand, the aforementioned HWiNFO exists, and it has free version, and has much bigger footprint and data to process.

Random_UserYeah. It does. But the thing is, they've pushed W7 people to upgrade to W10, because Steam is based on chromium. And they yet can't make a native 64bit. At the same time, the Chrome is 64-bit since 2014, and Firefox runs 64 bit natively on Windows, since 2015. Not that there's any problem, just the fact.

Exactly. I doubt many people go buy it. Perhaps, most of downloads goes for trial Extreme. The pros, who need the Business or Engineer edition for work, wil buy it anyway. The HWiNFO on the other hand, has both 32 and 64 bit excutables.

And this is indeed 32 bit.



And yes there is free software, made by the sole guys. And it has dark themes, a lot of plug-ins and native support, bug fixes, and 64 bit native.

Everest never claimed 64 in it's name. And it's a bit of shame for $60 software in 2023. But if it works, than maybe let it be?

I'm no software specialist, just a complete layman noob. But the concern is, if it adds any overhead due to emulation, and how that impacts on the results, and resource use, compared to the native mode.
Another concern is the future of WOW64 support itself.

It is expensive. And it makes additional pressure on support and dev team from loads of unregistered free users, and does in bigger extent, than from paid customers, and without any finanial benefit. But on the other hand, the aforementioned HWiNFO exists, and it has free version, and has much bigger footprint and data to process.

Spoiler

Not only selling the mined private data, but also has way lesser user database, due to much smaller and locked ecosystem, compared to CPUID and mentioned HWiNFO etc.

And HWiNFO introduced a Pro version with different license models as well :)

That said, they do communicate with each other. So it is just to every user to pick what he likes. I do occasionally use HWI, but my main to-go software is AIDA64.

TomorrowIs that supposed to be an excuse? If a developer is asking $60 a year - minimum, then i don't think it's unreasonable to ask 64bit, dark mode support etc.
I could understand it if it was a free or very cheap program and there was only one guy coding it in he's spare time. But it's not the case here.

This software is hardly worth a subscription.

AIDA is an extremely expansive piece of software, but I only need less than 1% of its functionality, so the pricing is just crazy. And I pretty much only use it when I get a new motherboard, CPU or RAM.

I'd probably pay $30-50 for a lifetime license, but one year? That's insane.

THU31AIDA is an extremely expansive piece of software, but I only need less than 1% of its functionality, so the pricing is just crazy. And I pretty much only use it when I get a new motherboard, CPU or RAM.

I'd probably pay $30-50 for a lifetime license, but one year? That's insane.

Better to obtain it via other methods.

For mine, i am using a key i bought ages ago for it, and have blocked it from in/out net connection. I'll just keep using it like this as long as i can. Not bothered about updating it.

TomorrowEarlier this year i posted about their pricing on their forums. Here's the post: forums.aida64.com/topic/11974-aida64-pricing-needs-update

You can read the developers responses from the link above. Basically they feel that since they kept the same price for a long time they are justified in asking for a higher price right now and they feel like supporting a cheaper, basic edition is too much work somehow.

Also the irony is that they have 64 in the name but the program lacks 64bit version, much less being native 64bit that should be the norm these days with Windows itself dumping 32bit versions of Win11. Thank god the WoW64 emulation is this good but i feel like some developers are using it as a crutch not to move on from 32bit.

Honestly $60 for a lifetime personal license edition (functionally equivalent to Extreme, with the benchmarking, btw) would sell much more. Put it on Steam, too. I'd buy it. The problem with AIDA64's licensing model is that... the app just isn't worth what they ask. I'm sure they can come up with a million reasons, some even valid, but that's the market reality out here. There are free alternatives on equal footing (HWiNFO64 for example).

Wait these are annual prices? no just no.

Hi,
I got a cheapo 2-3 bucks and it's worked just fine for 4 +- years now
Updates off of course.
It's not a very good stress test so go get blender and there demo rendering files for free baby :laugh:



HWInfo64 does it like this app should be like "free for personal use not BUSINESS" :p

WirkoDo you have a means to confirm that benchmarking code is native, not emulated? Task Manager, perhaps?

(Actually, it would be very interesting if you had both options so you could see what's the overhead of emulation.)

hmmm maybe if I try harder. I did confirm what was mentioned earlier by taking a peek during a benchmark.



the actual benchmark is handled by a process named "AIDA64 Benchmark Module"



Which loads "aida_bench64.dll" which is executed as x64. Though the bas app is 32bit. I personally see no issue with this. This thread isnt about that though. If people want to know more or have me test I have a thread about the dev kit.

Solaris17Which loads "aida_bench64.dll" which is executed as x64. Though the bas app is 32bit. I personally see no issue with this. This thread isnt about that though. If people want to know more or have me test I have a thread about the dev kit.

Thank you. I think it belongs in this thread because it's specifically about AIDA64's ability to benchmark Arm systems by running native Arm code. And now it's clear that it can't do that - yet.

Intel made a free ram benchmark which I actually think is better than aida's it isnt a fancy GUI, but I think is a nice tool. I have been using that in more recent cases. It will tell you the impact of i/o size on latency and bandwidth rather than just one figure spitted out by aida.

www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/tool/intelr-memory-latency-checker.html

Yep cmd is a useful free tool you just have to search for the entries to use :cool: