Tuesday, August 13th 2024
AMD Readies Ryzen 5 5500X3D Socket AM4 Processor with 3D V-Cache
If you're on the Socket AM4 platform, AMD is never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down, never gonna run around and desert you; never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye, never gonna tell a lie, and hurt you. The company is reportedly giving finishing touches to a firecracker of a sub-$200 chip for price-conscious gamers, the Ryzen 5 5500X3D. That's right, AMD is bringing 3D V-cache technology to the mid-range, with a new 6-core processor based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture, but enjoying the gaming performance boost from 96 MB of L3 cache on tap.
AMD already has a 6-core X3D Socket AM4 chip, the Ryzen 5 5600X3D, which joined the product stack a couple of years after AMD's original Ryzen 7 5800X3D took the gaming PC processor scene by storm, matching the then swanky new Core i9-12900K "Alder Lake" despite being based on an older-generation "Zen 3" architecture. Not much else is known about the 5500X3D, except that it could have a lower clock speed than the 5600X3D. Back in November 2023, when news of the 5700X3D first hit the scene, the 5500X3D was rumored to be a 6-core/12-thread chip with 3.00 GHz base frequency and 4.00 GHz maximum boost, compared to the 3.30 GHz base and 4.40 GHz boost frequency of the 5600X3D. Given that AMD launched the 5600X3D at $230, AMD could target a sub-$200 price point to wow gamers on AM4, such as $199.
Why is AMD continuing to launch Socket AM4 chips well into the mid-2020s? We're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I—the new Socket AM5 lacks backwards-compatibility with DDR4, and as such AMD would be abandoning a large value-conscious desktop market to Intel, which supports DDR4 on even its 14th Gen Core processors. While AMD can't backport Zen 4 to AM4, it can do the next best thing—expand Zen 3 with 3D V-cache to more market segments, and bring Zen 4 kind of gaming performance to those segments. This could probably also have something to do with AMD's wafer-supply agreement with GlobalFoundries, which provides the 12 nm client I/O die for these "new" chips.
Sources:
Harukaze5719 (Twitter), chi11eddog (Twitter)
AMD already has a 6-core X3D Socket AM4 chip, the Ryzen 5 5600X3D, which joined the product stack a couple of years after AMD's original Ryzen 7 5800X3D took the gaming PC processor scene by storm, matching the then swanky new Core i9-12900K "Alder Lake" despite being based on an older-generation "Zen 3" architecture. Not much else is known about the 5500X3D, except that it could have a lower clock speed than the 5600X3D. Back in November 2023, when news of the 5700X3D first hit the scene, the 5500X3D was rumored to be a 6-core/12-thread chip with 3.00 GHz base frequency and 4.00 GHz maximum boost, compared to the 3.30 GHz base and 4.40 GHz boost frequency of the 5600X3D. Given that AMD launched the 5600X3D at $230, AMD could target a sub-$200 price point to wow gamers on AM4, such as $199.
114 Comments on AMD Readies Ryzen 5 5500X3D Socket AM4 Processor with 3D V-Cache
Why? Because I want to upgrade my 5950X to a 5950X3D. It would be one hell of an upgrade for me. AM4 is still one helluva system. AM6 is what I'll be waiting for to do my next build.Ultimately you're right. My memory failed me as 5700X3D is a true X3D chip just clocked lower than the 5600X3D and finding itself losing to the lower model in multiple games. 5600X3D > 5700X3D.
5700X3D > 5600X3D
by a hair. In real world use they're very similar with the 3D VCache doing most of the heavy lifting and the occasional game will favor one over the other.
But the real advantage of the 5700X3D is availability as few people live close enough to a Microcenter to get the 5600X3D.
They're selling the 5700X3D for $190 though, which is still over $100 less than I paid for a 5800X3D on sale.
In all honestly I'd suggest the 5700X3D anyway for most, as an EOL upgrade for an aging rig you may as well get the extra cores.
Microcenter 5700X3D - $189.99
Newegg 5800X3D - $349.99 (Amazon selling used for $329.99)
5700X3D is clearly the people champ as of 16 Aug 2024.
The 3700X was the "sold-like-hotcakes" Ryzen during the very-early pandemic.
It's possible that in Windows tasks, lots of users will think it's not better than Matisse!
Especially with the fact that Windows (especially Windows Update) can still be a drag on a Ryzen 9 5900X! Even though I don't know if that's related or not, but Windows Update sure can be slow, even on a 5900X! :mad: :banghead:
So don't expect it to be faster than a Matisse in standard Windows tasks!
The 3D cache better be doing its job!
At least Ivy Bridge didn't have known major reliability issues. No known degradation issues at stock.
Yes, there was also that issue with Skylake, with the PCB bending, but that looks like nothing.